Re: International Conference on the Phaistos Disk

On Jul 10, 7:14 pm, "Ekkehard Dengler" <ED...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No, "biased" is correct.

When Panu Petteri Höglund alias craoibhi and his
fellow killraters are concerned, it is absolutely biassed.

We know little about the Argolis in the Middle Helladic
period of time. Our historical and archaeological records
are consisting of fragments. But we can hope to shed
light on that crucial period in the making of Greece
by joining the fragments in the right way. I for one link
the disks as translated by Derk Ohlenroth with the gold
signet ring from a cache of Tiryns and Lord Laertes
the gardener in Homer's Odyssey. Laertes planted the
olive tree around whose stump Odysseus and Penelope
built their immovable bed, symbol of the eternal Greek
civilization. A schematic olive tree is shown on the
disks, namely Evans 13 on the Elaia disk and on the
Tiryns disk, a vertical twig growing out of an olive,
about six and six dots for leaves on the sides of the twig,
about six dots before the twig (and six invisible ones
behind). The same sign appears on the gold ring from
Tiryns, a vertical twig growing out from an olive. You
can see it three times, between the lion-wolf-dog-bee
kings honoring Elaia-Demeter on the left side (behind
her the eagle of Sseyr Zeus): www.seshat.ch/home/ring.gif
The signs on the ring have practically the same length or
height as on the disk, but they are finer, we count fourteen
and fourteen leaves on the sides of the first twig (none
in front, though), one leave being about one millimeter
long. The Elaia disk mentions and represents Elaia's
grove at Phigalia. Elaia means olive. It is my opinion
that a young man from Arcadia under Mount Lycaion
was appointed king of Tiryns, introduced the olive in
the Argolis, with the help of the priestesses of Elaia's
grove in Phigalia, and probably also with support from
Crete, averted a famine, and thus was honored with
a pair of gold disks he wore on his shoulders, and then
his successors wore them on their shoulders, as on
the ring. Have a good look at the spiral of the first king
in line. It is only two millimeters across, here enlarged
to about ten cm: www.seshat.ch/home/ring3.JPG
Now imagine the glory of the hypothetical gold disks,
worked in the same technique as the ring from Tiryns,
signs elevated, much finer than the ones imprinted
in the clay disks, and to think that the gold disks may
still be there, somewhere in a part of ancient Tiryns
that has not yet been excavated ...

Ekkehard Dengler: why don't you read the book
"Das Abaton des Lykäischen Zeus und der Hain
der Elaia" by Derk Ohlenroth ?
.

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