non-mutation after LEIS [plus singular def article]


it's me again.

my postings were limited. i posted too many.

this is my final posting for the day. might not do any more at all.

i had to use this address to post. other one was at daily limit. i had
one more to post.

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sorry. u r correct about teanga.

i meant to say, "NA teangaidh", but isnt this also ok [to add to the
other three forms], since teanga is fem?

maybe not.... i thought this was an ulster form:

an teangaidh [ulster]

na teangaidh [genitive ulster - i thought this was ok in the genitive]

but i think the IS fuath ORM and this NA TEANGAIDH are from sc gaelic.
so these may not exist in irish in these forms.

i fucked up.

google NA TEANGAIDH - u will see sc gaelic results.

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Níl ionat féin ach bromaire agus bómán gan mhaith. Beidh do ráleabhar
agam leis an chac a ghlanadh de mo thóin.

maybe this is better?

leis an cac a ghlanadh? [without mutation on CAC]

[is this really the so-called "dative"? if so, "an chac" is ok. if
not, i would say AN CAC, no?]

because the phrase would be this, wouldnt it?:

an cac a ghlanadh [with LEIS then added onto it after]

rather than

leis an chac a ghlanadh [with the mutation after LEIS]

mutation ALWAYS after LEIS [plus article]?

better check that one. i cant remember. i havent been in any gaeltacht
for over 18 years at least, nor in ireland for at least 15.

anyway, the verb is better at the end. that's the way native speakers
speak usually. higher frequency anyway of final verb.

or

... le mo thoin a ghlanadh. [without stating the obvious CAC, and
also putting the verb at the end, where it's more "native-like"]

well, if irish is to survive, this sort of anal nitpicking isnt the
way. schooling isnt the way.

the more people naturally use the language, the more they will
naturally know the grammar. schooling isnt the answer. irish isnt that
difficult if you speak it every day. if anything, this sort of anal
bickering hastens its end. on the other side, when ppl let too much
stuff slide, its also bad. what is important is fluency - granted, in
a publication accuracy is non-negotiable and fluency is nothing. in
speech, fluency plus time will smooth out the errors. but it's gradual
and natural, not from books. it's alive - it's a process. come on!
bromaire? where's the slang? boman? you are a motivated native-like
fluent speaker. let's see the magic!

get the face out of Dineen and O Donaill 7rl and into some fresh air.
outside, where REAL PEOPLE are waiting for you to speak with them. in
irish, in english, bulgarian, turkish...

we dont get languages from books.

dude, seriously. you need a holiday.

get out of the euro-zone and catch some rays!
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