Re: International Conference on the Phaistos Disk

On Jul 26, 2:28 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 25, 3:06 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Where do I say anything about it in WWS? (That was your false claim,
which I snipped.)

Solely in your imagination. There is no attestation of such an
"alphabet" or script.

Thus, by definition, not an alphabet

[snipping the oft-repeatred fantasies]

Where on earth do you _get_ crap like this????

Influential people

Name them, and name your source.

denied Champollion's achievement
until twenty years after his death, fearing the Egyptian
papyri, once deciphered, might reveal an Egyptian
knowledge predating the Greek one - I got this from
a TV documentary (and if TV domcumentaries are
nonsense, why did you participate in one yourself?).

Did I? What does "documentary" mean to you? Maybe I was involved in a
TV series because I was a "consultant" on it and therefore had input
into what would be presented to the public in it. (Though I am not
aware that it has been broadcast anywhere yet.)

Adam Funk: what does "recognized right away by
well-known authorities" mean? Derk Ohelnroth's
book was quickly sold out, although being very
expensive, every university library and every
archaeological library hereabouts bought a copy.
Peter: what is your opinion about the origin of the
alphabet? If a script consists of signs that render
neither words nor syllables but single consonants
and vowels we speak of an alphabetic script.

Under that (correct) definition, the alphabet originated for Greek,
ca. 800 BCE.

The
big shortcoming of The World's Writing Systems
is your complete omission of the graphic origin of writing.
The oldest examples of writing identified so far (mainly
by me)

When was the book published? When did you make your "identification"?

are abstract signs accompanying cave art,
figurative reliefs (Göbekli Tepe), and Vinca figurines
(signs on the surface can both be read as cloth,
for example, and as message, name of the goddess,
cross line angle - Ki Ri Ke - Circe). Now in the case
of the Elaia disk and of the Tiryns disk we have
another example of visual and verbal language,
a last survivor of the Vinca tradition that also marks
the begin of a new tradition in writing, namely the
use of an alphabetic script, and the Tiryns disk
is the most fascinating example of a combined
visual and verbal message I ever encountered.

Then maybe you should devote your energies to writing an article for
the journal *Kadmos* that will persuade the experts you hate so much,
instead of posting your fantasies to sci.lang.
.

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