Re: Guitar teetering

Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Aug 1, 3:10 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Aug 1, 8:12 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The modern linguistics sticks too much to the sound laws and regular
phonetic changes in order to prove the relatedness among different
words.
And you interpret that as license to invent relationships without evidence.
It became a kind of "scientific" lunacy, because there are rare
(if any at all) phonetic laws that could be applied strictly, without
a great number of exceptions. For instance, you cannot take a
reduction (syncope) of the English word husband or Serbian gospodin
(gentleman, lord; Lat. hospita) to guest and host
Of course not, since neither "guest" nor "host" came from "husband" or
"gospodin".
(Srb. gost guest,
gazda host)as a general rule, simply because there is no enough
similar examples. Finally, if you need phonetic rules to understand
that host/guest comes from hospit, then something is terrible wrong
with your reasoning.
Neither "host" nor "guest" comes from "hospit", though all three are
related. "Host" comes, quite simply, from "hostis". "Guest" doesn't come
from Latin.
I am trying to enlighten your mind and broden your horizon,
By telling me things that aren't true? Wow.

> but it
> seems - all in vain. You obstinately adhere to your folly, and refuse
> to think more profoundly.

It's folly not to pay attention to someone who can't get his story
straight when purporting to be laying out a derivation?

Latin hospes -pitis has the both meanings "host" and "guest" (in
addition, friend, stranger), but I didn't say that Germanic "gast" or
Slavic "gost" sprang from the Latin hospit-.
You wrote, "Finally, if you need phonetic rules to understand that
host/guest comes from hospit ...." I'll add this to the list of things
you can't remember having just written.

I said "hospit" (not Latin)

Where is "hospit" found earlier than Latin?

and I could have also said gospod or
hospod/hospad, quite the same.

Latin hostis is a
syncopated form of hospitis,
According to my sources, that's not how it worked. I'll save you a step:
if you're going to respond, "Open your mind to another possibility", my
response will be, "where is the evidence for that other possibility?"

The process of agglutination is the one of the first steps in the
development of language; so, it is impossible to get hospit from host.

This has so many logical holes in it it's unbelievable. 1. If the process of agglutination is ONE of the first steps, it implies that there were other steps, not that only agglutination occurred. 2. The first steps are irrelevant anyway because we're not talking about the first steps, we're talking about ordinary language evolution long after the birth of spoken language. 3. The etymology given for "hospit" *is* based on agglutination anyway. 4. Your remark makes as much sense as claiming it's impossible to get from Latin "hodie" to French "aujourd'hui".

In both words, hospit- and host- the base of word is Bel (of course,
now completely hidden) and hos- and to-are affixes derived from the ur-
syllable Gon.

And once again we return to claims that we're supposed to believe just because you say so.
.

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