Re: The monumental stupidity of PIE theorists further illustrated

Nikolaj wrote:
Paul J Kriha pravi:
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If I say "trnka", the "n" becomes separates from "k" and becomes a
dental ("trn" = thorn). If must take care and pronounce both "n" and "k"
in -nk- as velar sounds, and then "r" becomes similar to that what I
pronounce in "šrnk", and that is miles away from the usual syllabic "r"
(and I suppose that "srna", "prst", "krk", "drn", "trn", etc... are
pronounced the same in Czech and Slovene).

I'd agree with that.

And in Sanskrit "śṛṅga" the
"ś" should be a palatal fricative, not retroflex/postalveolar one, which
makes it even worse.

It seems to me it looks close to a vowel of some sort (Ranjit's [i"] or
maybe [@\] ?); but in reality it isn't a vowel, it is a trill with the
tongue curled up to the top of the head (palatal trill?) followed by a
velar nasal.

Frk: strč drn, trn, prst skrz krk srnky!
That's eight syllabic "r"s in an eight word sentence :-)

:) Up to now I knew only the phrase "strč prst skrz krk".

A friend of my wrote a whole short story without a single vowel.
IIRC, it included most of the usual Czech words with syllabic
"r"s and "l"s as well as one of the rare "m"s.

Unfortunately, I don't seem to have it on this computer.

Something
about sticking(?) of a "finger through the throat" (of a deer?)... Can
you translate the rest?

Cz: "Frk: strč drn, trn, prst, hrst, prs, hrb skrz krk srnky!"
En: "Joke: push sod, thorn, finger, handful, brest, hump through the throat of a doe!"


How about the longest word with syllabic "r", but without any other
vowel? In Slovene: "čmrlj" (bumble-bee), "čvrst" (firm) :)

Have fun with these Cz words:

Two syllabic "r"s only:
Commonly used, e.g. in cooking recipes: "čtvrthrst" (quarter fistful)

Syllabic "r" and "l" only:
Commonly used: "scvrnkl" (he knocked down) or "scvrnkls"
(you knocked down)
Weird but still analyzable: zvzscvrnkls

Shortest words: a, i, u, o, k, s, v, z
Long words: nejnevykrystalizovávatelnější
nejzdevětadevadesáteroneroznásobitelnějšími

Most consecutively repeated vowel: dooorat
(each "o" pronounced separately, glotal stops between "o"s)
(lit.: "orat" = to plough, "oorat" = to plough over,
"dooorat" = to finish ploughing over)

Repeated syllable (ignoring different lengths):
Za domama má má máma malou zahrádku.
(lit.: Behind the houses has my mother a small garden.)

pjk

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