it's laundry day today :-(

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KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT OF OUR POLITICS

You can rest assured that I don't poke my nose into Welsh politics,
either.

Panu: "White is black. Black is white."

Panu Hoglund is MASSIVELY interfering in Irish and British politics.. I
think this is illegal.

What you think is entirely irrelevant.

Panu, ARE you, or are you NOT, interfering in Irish politics?

I am contributing to the Irish language revival, as are many other
foreigners interested in the language for one reason or other.

<<PANU PETTERI HÖGLUND, Master of Arts (Åbo Akademi University) ....
In fact, most of the 19th century Irish national politics concerned
Catholic emancipation...>>

Stadas isn't politics? Not only signing, but presenting a petition?
This isn't politics? You started the petition!

You are massively interfering in the politics of another country.

What's your problem with it? Neither the TDs nor the Irish embassy in
Helsinki had anything against me "interfering". In fact, I was several
times invited to the embassy to celebrate St Paddy's day, as a friend
of Ireland.

Get real.

I think you are the one who has to get real.

It was a lovely day in Dublin by the way - there wasn't even rain. All
the political parties had been able to find a T.D. fluent in Irish. It
was a good year in many ways, 2004. In that year I met my fiancée for
the first time.

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<<The very effective lobby group, Stádas — based out of Conradh na
Gaeilge ... Panu Petteri Hoglund will hand over the signatures to the
Taoiseach (Irish Prime Minister) at the...>>

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http://www.anphoblacht.com/news/detail/4382

 The question of status for the Irish language in the EU hasn't gone
away. Some people may think that the issue was clarified when a weak-
willed motion was passed in Leinster House a few months ago with the
government's support but their commitment cannot be relied upon. The
government were clearly not willing from Day One of the Irish
Presidency to request of the Council of European Ministers that Irish
be included along with the languages of the other new member states
for official status. Having reluctantly bowed to pressure from
cultural, political and language organisations as well as the people
of Ireland, the worry remains that they may not make the request
during the Irish Presidency. That would be totally unacceptable and,
indeed, incomprehensible.

The very effective lobby group, Stádas — based out of Conradh na
Gaeilge -- has kept up the pressure to ensure Irish is recognised in
the EU along with other languages and is asking those who support the
campaign to come along to show your support for this campaign next
Saturday, 24 April, in Dublin at 2 pm.

Fuair ceannaire ó gach páirti cuireadh ón bhfeachtas chun labhairt ag
an ócáid seo (in aon teanga!)

Leaders of all political parties have been invited to address the
march and rally. Over 800,000 signatures have already been collected
on the website by those who believe Irish has a right — along with
Estonian, Maltese, Slovene, etc — to be included as an official EU
language.

Seewww.PetitionOnline.comifyouwishto add your name to this
figure. The person who actually started the website as his
contribution to the campaign is a Finnish man who took it upon himself
to learn Irish! Panu Petteri Hoglund will hand over the signatures to
the Taoiseach at the weekend.

It is very important that this opportunity is not lost — there are
only about six weeks left before the Presidency rotates to another
state.

The march begins at the Garden of Remembrance, Parnell Square, at 2pm,
continuing up O'Connell Street to Molesworth Street opposite Dáil
Éireann.

what i think is irrelevant, and you are sending me these messages
anyway?

I am not interested in your thoughts, I am interested in you
apologizing.



and you want an apology?

Not necessarily. Destroying your life permanently with a lawsuit and a
damages claim will do just fine.



the politics you are interfering are also international, as Britain is
involved.

you are trying to influence westminster.

I am not trying to influence anything anymore, because Irish indeed
became an official language of the EU in the beginning of the year
2007. I have never "tried to influence Westminster" in any way.

while the cause is good, your place in it isn't right.

It is not yours to tell me where my right place is.

no. you are too rude, too crazy, and you started this mess.

You have called me without any reasonable provocation a ***-eater, a
homosexual, and what-not. My friend Seán has been following this
altercation from the very beginning, and lest you think cancelling
your postings in Google somehow annihilates them, be warned that you
are wrong: there are other Usenet archives. Your old messages can and
will be used as evidence against you.

so, no apology. just stop bothering me and spamming me, and i will
stop these postings.

So, a lawsuit it will be, then. Very well.

i am in no way against the cause of the irish language - very much for
it, but im not going to be bullied by sb like you.

I am sorry, but it is not bullying to tell you, that you need to take
responsibility for repeatedly defaming me. Your insults have been in
no reasonable proportion to my criticism of your phrasebooks.

And as regards the Irish language cause, it certainly has no use for a
"champion" such as you. With friends like you, no cause needs enemies.
With your bad Irish and worse manners, you can serve the cause only by
keeping away.

So wait a minute. You think that I forgot about your libellous
comments to some in this group?

You think they aren't archived?

Hahahahahhahahaa.

Panu perhaps has some problem with his memory?

He's having fun with his friend Sean about his "lawsuit" threats and
his bullying.

Sad.

I'm quite prepared to drop all of this or just keep it alive forever.
I don't really mind either way. If you want this to last forever, it's
cool. Whatever. If you want to drop it, that's ok too. It's entirely
up to you. I have a feeling this will last literally for decades. !!!!
I don't actually have a problem with that!!!! The bottom is a safe
place to be. You want to come down to the bottom with me? OK! I can
drag you down, if you want. It's your choice. It's up to you.

You have no idea how unimportant what you do is to me. I don't have a
career. I have my own business, and it isn't language-related. I think
the other poor chap has no money.

Anyway, I have to go and do my laundry now. The wife is visiting her
parents, so it's my job to take care of all the chores.

It's a dog's life. :-(

And this trolling and counter-trolling is really throwing me for six.
I need a holiday. Don't cry about the ***-eater comments. After you
telling me I was worthless in Irish, I think you deserved that and
much more. Dogs and pigs eat ***, too. So it's not exactly unheard of
in the animal kingdom.

In 1990, the lingua franca at the barber shop in Gaoth Dobhair was
English, BTW. Go and fix that.

See you tomorrow. Say hi to Sean for me.
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