Re: proof that most etymologies are only fairy-tales
- From: "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 5, 10:20 am, "Ekkehard Dengler" <ED...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
Ekkehard Dengler wrote:
John Atkinson wrote:
*bher- [boil] > Latin fermentum, Greek porphu:ro:, Sanskrit bhurati
*bher- [brown] > English brown, Greek phru:nos, (with suffix, via
*bhruHnos); and Sanskrit babhru-, Gaulish beberu-, Latin fiber,
English beaver, Lithuanian bebrus, Russian bobr, Avestan bawra (with
reduplication, via *bhebhru-); and English bear, Lithuanian be:ras
(via bhe:ro-)
*bher- [carry] > Old Irish beirid, Latin fero:, English bear,
Albanian bie, Greek phero:, Armenian berem, Sanskrit bharati,
Tocharian p&r, Russian beru, Lithuanian beriu; and OCS breme, Greek
ferma, Sanskrit bharman (with suffix, via *bhermn-); and Latin
fors, English birth, Sankrit bhrti- (with suffix, via *bhrtis)
*bher- [cure] > Lithuanian burti, Albanian bar, Greek pharmakon
*bher- [strike, bore] > Latin ferio:, English bore, Greek pharao:,
Irish bern, Lithuanian bar(i)u, Russian borju, Armenian brem,
Persian burrad, Sanskrit brna:ti; and Old Irish bruid, latin
frustum, English bruise, Albanian bresh@r (with suffix, via
*bhreus-)
*bher- [weave] > Lithuanian burvam, Greek pharos (with suffix via
*bhrw-, bolt of cloth)
How does one decide that *bher-, *bher-, *bher-, *bher- and *bher-
are separate roots, though, other than on the basis of perceived
semantic plausibility?
You'd have to be able to observe *their* etymology. Sort of like the
situation with "rare".
Obviously, but you snipped the "supposing German were Proto-Indo-European"
bit. Reconstructed roots are hard to etymologise.
Well ... that's where the other half of historical linguistics kicks
in: internal reconstruction.
.
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