Re: proof that most etymologies are only fairy-tales
- From: Franz Gnaedinger <frgn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:26:40 -0700 (PDT)
My message was killrated by 3 users, matching the
3 Usenet identities of Panu Petteri Höglund. There
is Panu Petteri Höglund the Finn (phogl...), there is
Panu Petteri Höglund the savior of the Irish language
(craoibhi...), and there is Panu Petteri Höglund his
own friend, praising himself as "a truly great linguist"
(soconn1@xxxxxxxxxxx, "a former chemist and now
a novelist," writer of just one single message to date,
an eulogy on himself, thread "Panu Hoglund's
emotional age" Aug. 4, 8:04 pm). Julius Pokorny
comes to mind, born in Berlin, savior of the Irish
language, and truly a great linguist. He got an Irish
passport and found refuge in Switzerland, where he
lived for the rest of his long live in my hometown of
Zurich. As a boy I must have crossed his paths.
Anyway, I breathed the same air as He did, which
must be the reason for my easy understanding of
early language. When Panu Petteri Höglund joined
sci.lang and saw my work he immediately recognized
that he can only be a Schmalspur Pokorny - this one,
although having been rather conservative for his
time, would have undertaken a work of my dimensions.
And so he begann attacking me and killrating my
messages. Once he told me there is no killrating mob
in sci.lang; he, Panu Petteri Höglund, is my one and
only killrater. I can only hope that he will get no Irish
passport and come to live in Zürich for the rest of his
life ...
Panu Petteri Höglund, leader of the killrating campaign.
against me, follows me around, attacking and molesting
and deriding me, and abusing my etymological thread.
He can't argue on a scientific level. Having attended
three universities he got no scientific arguments. He
can't disprove any of my reconstructions or compounds.
But he must always get in the focus of my attention.
He is obsessed with me. Narcissistic stalkers should
be ignored, aggressive stalkers must be fought back
in a decided manner. What is one supposed to do
with a both narcissistic and aggressive stalker?
Scientific arguments are welcome. Pick out the worst
I say - the worst in your opinion - and I will discuss it
with you. PIE scholars apparently don't agree on the
etymology of bear, and so I propose a new etymology
on the basis of my Magdalenian experiment. I am
ready to make it a test case - next week, when I return
home and can again consult Mallory and Adams.
There is only one painted bear in the Lascaux cave,
in the very center of the large panel in the rotunda,
hidden in the ground line, under the belly of the bull
marked with a triple sign I identified as the three
days or nights of the newborn moon and the three
days or nights of the dying moon. I will study the bear
of Lascaux next week, when I return home and can
consult my books again.
I derive bear German Bär from Magdalenian BIR
ancient Greek byros English fur: a bear was the
furry one, the animal growing a precious fur that
was used for giving warm in the harsh Ice Age
winters. The actual word for bear was ARC
wherefrom Latin ursus. ARC TYR --- cave
bear (arc) he who overcomes (tyr), an Ice Age
hero who took it up with a cave bear, a monster
bigger than a grizzly. ARC TYR survives in king
Arthur who fought a dragon for three days and
nights and finally won. The myth of dragons
originated from skulls and other bones of the
long extinct cave bear Ursus spelaeus found
in caves. Being able to cope with a cave bear
was really something. Every young man can
buy a ring for his girl friend, but imagine hunting
a cave bear with the weapons of CroMagnons
in order to present your lovely with a warm fur
and a bear tooth on a sinew for an amulett ...
Magdalenian words are embedded in permutation
groups that provide more information. The one
of BIR is concerned with fertility and offspring.
If you consult my Magdalenian dictionary you'll
find that BIR means the fur wherein a newborn
was laid in order to keep it warm, and this may
preferably have been a bear fur. The feelings
toward bears were ambivalent, they were feared,
of course, but also admired, bear mothers for
their courage in defending their cubs, and so,
in Celtic times, the female bear was worshipped
as a mother goddess. English to bear and birth
and German gebären Geburt may be seen in this
context, while evidence that bears were actually
named for their precious fur comes from the old
German word petz 'bear' petze 'female bear',
surviving as Meister Petz in fables and fairy tales.
A petz can also bristle up, stand on end (Grimm,
Wörterbuch, quote from Hagedorn), so petz must
be akin to German Pelz English pelt, both from
Latin pellis that is also present in German Fell 'fur'.
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