Re: observable language change - "off of" makes it to the NY Times
- From: analyst41@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 11, 9:02 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
analys...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Aug 11, 7:47 pm, "benli...@xxxxxxxxxx" <benli...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:11 am, analys...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Aug 11, 5:42 pm, "benli...@xxxxxxxxxx" <benli...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:You assume your "sad" face whenever you have no answer.
On Aug 12, 8:05 am, analys...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:Sad.
There cannot be a shadow of a doubt that the NY Times has started"bourgeoise"?? You really ought to check a dictionary, for both
using it to make its bourgeoise readers feel at home, who it thinks
spelling and meaning.
Someone who rails about "slovenly speech" ought to be more careful how
they use words.
Thats so dishonest and infantile at the same time.
It's dishonest and infantile to tell a hypocrite he's a hypocrite?
product is changing to keep up with the linguistic changes (it thinksOf course I do. That is not the problem.
is) going on among it target audience.
I am sure you understand what 'drop the 'of'' means.http://cjrarchives.org/tools/lc/fused.aspSo you found some journalist who shares your prejudice and thinks
says
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(And while in technical land, we should note that "off of" is a
barbarism; drop the "of.")
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"barbarism" makes him sound learned.
You still haven't explained what's wrong with "off of".
quit the enigmatic crap. If you have something to say in support of
'off of'' say it or STFU.
It's perfectly good English, just like "inside of" and "over there" and
the obviously redundant "underneath", not to mention "up above". Don't
like "up above"? Well, how about "above", which but oh, wait, that is,
after all, a- + bufan = "on" + "above". And unfortunately for you,
"bufan" came from be- + ufan ("by" + "above"). And of course even "ufan"
is "uf" plus a locative suffix. That must make you want to curl up and
die. I'm certain you will *never* use the word "above" again as long as
you live, let alone "up above". But then "underneath" should make you
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nice huffing and puffing - but failing totally address the issue
whether "off of" is acceptable in formal writing and educated speech.
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