Re: proof that most etymologies are only fairy-tales



On Aug 12, 10:41 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My

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Magdalenian

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experiment lasts now for three and
a half years,


I

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performed every move online, for everyone
to see, my


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permutation groups are the result of four laws,
several of my

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permutation groups tell me

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that the Ice Age
people were very fond of their babies and their young -
not astonishingly, as they were few, many children must
have died, and they lived in a harsh world. The permutation
group of BRI concerned with fertility yielded BIR not just as
fur but especially as the fur where newborns were laid on.
You can find this definition in my

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Magdalenian

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dictionary.
I

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did not made it up this August. When analys... told us
that PIE scholars can't agree on the etymology of bear
I

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went for a Magdalenian

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explanation, my

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best guess was
BIR, and the rest followed easily. I

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am now ready to make
a test case of bear.

Another correction: ancient Greek for skin, fur, was byrsa
(not byros). I

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returned home and can again consult my

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books.

I

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derive bear from BIR meaning fur, especially the fur that
kept a newborn warm, preferably the soft and longhaired
fur of a bear. In German there are two alternative names
of the bear referring to fur: 1) petz female petze, in fables
and fairy tales called Meister Petz, a word I

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link to Pelz
'pelt', a petz can also bristle up, stand on end (Hagedorn,
Grimm's Wörterbuch), and 2) Zottelbär 'shaggy bear'.
I

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don't know any names or nicknames calling a bear
the brown one, the wild one, or the overcomer. The bear
is the furry one, as his fur, soft and warm, was most
precious to the Ice Age people. Telling by his name
the boar Latin aper German Eber must have been
another provider of a good fur.

PIE has many homonyms that may be derivatives of
Magdalenian

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BIR (list of PIE forms after Mallory and
Adams 2006) : *bher- 'brown' -- as the fur of a bear //
"bher- 'weave, twine' -- twining and weaving the wool
of a sheep // "bher-- 'seeth, hobble; roast' -- cooking
the meet of a skinned animal // *bher- 'strike (through),
split, cut' -- killing a bear in order to get it's fur and
meat // *bher- 'carry' -- explained before // *bher-
'+- cure with spells and/or herbs' -- ritual healing
ceremonies may have involved bear furs // *bhere/o
'bear a child' -- explained before // *bherg- '+-bark,
growl' -- sounds made by a bear // *bherg- 'keep,
protect' -- explained before. The true root of many
or all of these homonyms would have been BIR.

Replying here to Harlan Messinger (no longer accepting
his way of snipping my

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messages and forcing me

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to say
it all again, and again, and again)

What discerns PIE from a phantasy? the sound laws
guiding the PIE reconstructions. What discerns
Magdalenian

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from a mere phantasy? my

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four Magdalenian

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laws. Using my

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laws I

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established a dictionary, and now
I

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look what I

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can explain with my

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reconstructions. BIR
means not just fur, ancient Greek byrsa, but especially
the fur where a newborn was laid on. BIR belongs to
the permutation group of BRI concerned with fertility,
and considering other words of this group I

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was obliged
to the above peculiar and very specific interpretation
of BIR. I

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play by my

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own rules, but rules they are. And I

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make every move in public, online, so you can tell me
in case that I

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neglected one of my

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laws. My

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second law
obliged me

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to the peculiar and very specific meaning
of BIR, and now it was only a short way from the fur
where a newborn was laid on to a bag made of fur
wherein a baby was carried around - to bear. Via
analogy you can then also name what a pregnant
woman does: bear a baby (inside her womb). In
between the two ways of bearing a baby is the event
we call birth, giving birth. And the best fur, soft, warm,
longhaired, is provided by the bear whose fur is brown.
Before going to pseudo hibernation (hi-ber-nation)
a bear eats about 150,000 berries (ber-ries). Dutch
brombeer 'growling beer' is practically the same as
German Brombeere 'black berry'. The words are so
very close that I

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assume a semantic connection.
Bears like berries; thornbushes may have been used
to protect a settlement against bears; or black berry
alleys may have been planted in order to trap bears.
Bears had to die so that humans could live. A painting
of a bear in the cave Trois Freres has a dotted fur
and spurts blood out of the mouth. Obviously the
animal is hit by many spears and dies. Now dots
also mean SAI for life, existence - the dying bear
means life for humans. In the cave of Montespan is
a clay sculpture of a bear without head, 110 cm long;
remains of wood found under the neck tell that once
the head of an actual bear was attached to the rump,
furthermore the rump may have been covered with
a bear hide. Many indentations on the body tell that
this bear sculpture was attacked with spears, probably
in ceremonies, a ritual bear hunt, symbolically taking
the life of the bear in order to get the fur, soft, warm,
longhaired, precious to the Ice Age people.

Playing by

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the rules makes my

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Magdalenian

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game
more than a phantasy.

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