Re: Beheaded Accipiter

Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Aug 18, 5:02 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
On Aug 18, 4:28 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dušan Vukotić wrote:
Latin platalea is a water bird and it kept the sound /l/ that is lost
in Slavic patka (from platka; Serb. plutati to float, plutalo an
afloat object; Russ. плот/plot raft). If you are intelligent enough
you will now be able to see why and how are words poleteti (fly; Russ.
полететь/poletet), plutati (float; Russ. плавать) related to ptica
(bird) and patka (duck).
Only in the sense that "intelligent" means "easily leaping to
conclusions based on the kind of phonetic innuendo that convinces Dusan,
as though that's all there were to it".
As for real intelligence, how much do you need not to leap to the
conclusion that the name of a bird that doesn't float on the water comes
from a word meaning "float"? Given that the bird's salient feature is
its bill (which is, after all, what the bird is named for in English:
"spoonbill"), it seems more likely that the source would be Greek πλατύς
= "flat".
But the "basic" word for the "flying animals" is bird. The English
word "bird" is related to Serbian "perad" (fowl, poultry); i.e. it is
related to "feather" (Serb. pero, perje; Gr. πτερόν wing, feather). I
explained earlier how the Serbian noun pero (feather) and the verb
polet-eti (fly) were born from the same ur-basis (poletarac nestling -
poultry; poult - pile chicken; cf. Serb. piletina chicken meat).
Everyone assertion in this last paragraph of yours is presented without
any supporting evidence or reasoning, and, to boot, none of it has
anything to do with eith "platalea" or my remarks about it anyway. Add
this to your list of non-sequitur hat tricks.

Do not be silly, I told you everything about the basic bird names!

In response to a remark by me that had nothing to do with basic bird names. Do you not know what "non sequitur" means?

As for πλατύς... it is related to "field" (Serb. polje, poljana
"field"; Russ. поле; Serb ploča, ploha "plate"; Russ. площадь/plošćad
"a city square"), all derived from Gon-Bel-Gon or bel-Gon basis (Serb.
oblinuti "suffuse").

Because you say so?

It means that English "field" is related to "float" and "flat",
because there is no more flat ground than the one that is suffused
(flooded; flood => flat).

Because you say so?

Are you able to understand this "primal philosophy" of word
development?

I now understand that you imagine there to be something called a "primary philosophy of word development", but whatever that is has nothing to do with science or with the actual origin of words. Are you joining Analyst in making up new concepts (like his global something-or-other) and throwing them around as though they should be of any significance to anyone?

Do I have to draw it out for you?

Let's talk about drawing things out. You haven't moved one step beyond "because I say so" mode, even after whining that you were getting tired of having that thrown at you, and even after I told you that the solution is to learn how to make convincing arguments for your claims, just like real scholars do. I've given you examples of what a convincing basis for etymological conclusions is. I've drawn all this out for you and yet I see that it has made no impact whatsoever.
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    ... in Slavic patka (from platka; ... conclusion that the name of a bird that doesn't float on the water comes ... poultry; poult - pile chicken; cf. Serb. ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Beheaded Accipiter
    ... in Slavic patka (from platka; ... conclusion that the name of a bird that doesn't float on the water comes ... poultry; poult - pile chicken; cf. Serb. ...
    (sci.lang)
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    ... in Slavic patka (from platka; ... conclusion that the name of a bird that doesn't float on the water comes ... poultry; poult - pile chicken; cf. Serb. ...
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