Re: Where does it _really_ come from, anyway?
- From: "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:42:48 +1200
lorad wrote:
On Sep 27, 10:38 pm, "Paul J Kriha"
<paul.nospam.kr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
John Atkinson wrote:
lorad wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:51 am, John Swindle <jcswin...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:23:09 GMT, "John Atkinson"
<johna...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
mike3 wrote:
Hi.
I once asked on this group about where the name "Krishna" comes
from, and it was said it comes from a Sanskrit word for "black".
But where does _that_ come from? If Sanskrit is an Indo-European
language, it may have (probably does, unless it was a borrowing
from some non-IE language) an Indo-European root form. What might
the old Indo-European root form be, and what words in other
Indo-European languages would also come from it (i.e. cognates of
"Krishna" in non-Indian I-E languages)?
According to Buck, Sanskrit kṛṣṇa is cognate with Old Church
Slavonic c^rUnU (Russian cêrnyj -- as in Chernobyl) = black, Old
Prussian kirsnan, Lithuanian kersâs (= black and white) and kersê.
(= spotted cow), and Swedish and Norwegian harr (= ashes), Albanian
sorr@ (= crow). The proto-Indo-European was k^wr.snos.
[...]
Is this also the root of Russian krasnyii (= red)?
Yes.. but Russian inherits it from Baltic.
No, and no. Both Slavic and Baltic inherit "krasa" from their common
ancestor.
Baltic (Latvian): 'krasniiga' (colorful) 'krasa' (color)
Yep.
In W Slavic 'krasa' or 'krása' means beauty.
'Krásná dívka' = beautiful girl, nothing to do with her colour.
Ever hear of colorful personalities'?
What has that to do with the price of bread?
Maybe the proto-russians thought 'red' was beautiful.
Go ask.
You go and ask about the difference between krasnaja
and krasivaja.
Is that also 'inheritted' from Baltic?
pjk
Could very well be.. seeing as how Baltic is light years more
conservative than is Slavic.
But of course, you already said that before, silly me.
The word was 'inheritted' at speed of light into all Slavic
languages thousands of miles apart as a number of cognates
with different loosely related meanings.
Krishna was colorful.
No he wasn't. He's usually depicted with dark blue skin in paintings and
other representations, sometimes black. And indeed, the meaning of the
Sanskrit word kṛṣṇa includes "dark" or "dark-blue" as well as "black".
John.-
Throwing peas against the wall!
Dried peas with a slingshot.
These peas punch holes in standardized ignorance.
Unfortunately, so far John hasn't managed to punch any holes at all.
pjk
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