Re: legal statement re Panu Petteri Höglund

Legal statement regarding Panu Petteri Höglund,
part 3, Panu Petteri Höglund

When Panu Petteri Höglund came (again) on board
sci.lang, he attacked me out of the blue, apparently
hoping to climb the social ladder of this forum by
doing so. I did a brief Google query on him and
pointed out the ugly messages he posted to soc.men.
He got furious and told me in German my head may
burst the sooner the better. He attacked me ever
since, and he bragged about being my one and
only killrater - meanwhile I got some 5,000 ratings,
most of them killratings (my term for systematically
downrating a poster by giving one Google star for
poor quality). Panu Petteri Höglund has more than
one Usenet identity:

phoglund @ abo.fi 1,771 messages to sci.lang,
total number of messages - cross-postings to
other groups included - 20,949

craoibhin66 @ gmail.com from March 2008
onward, 780 messages and counting

soconn1 @ comcast.net one single message
on August 4, 2008, 8:04 pm

jhobartkyle @ gmail.com nickname johnk

As phoglund and craoibhin he chased and chases
me, as soconn1 he praised himself as his own good
friend, and as jhobartkyle 'johnk' he attacks me and
attacks me and attacks me, in the same way as
phoglund in early 2006, lately even using the same
words. Can he also killrate me four times using
his four identities?

Panu Petteri Höglund attended three universities,
but he got nothing to say that hadn't been said
before and much better in plenty of textbooks.
He is short of scientific arguments, and so he
uses every means of getting around a scientific
discussion. He is desperate for acceptance
(even secretly hoping I would admire him), but
he tries to find acceptance in a hopeless way,
and telling him is to no avail. Born in 1966 he
is now 41 or 42 years old, when a man is on
the height of his powers. And what does he do?
he hangs around in sci.lang, hounding me. What
a sad waste of time. He needs a reasonable task
in life, so that he can be proud of himself when
he once reaches my age.

(end of part 3)

Franz Gnaedinger, Zurich, October 13, 2008

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Legal statement regarding Panu Petteri Höglund,
part 2, my way of posting

One way of tricking me out is to quote a line or two
of a message of mine, snip the rest, and ask me
a question -- a question that would have been
answered in the snipped lines, so that I must repeat
myself, and then again, and again, and again,
and all over again, always starting from zero, never
getting anywhere. Holding me up in my work is
the reason of this behaving. As a counter measure
I developed a new way of posting: quoting my own
messages, so I can refer to the answer already
given in the quote. I discuss in various threads,
usually replying to a question, when I have to say
something and think I can shed light on a word
or a problem from my particular vantage point.
And then, when a problem is solved, a word
explained, I publish a concise version in my
publishing thread (from now on here, in this
new publishing thread of mine). I feel entitled to
quote my messages in this well considered way,
as I _work_ in sci.lang, I don't chat, I don't spread
my name in thousands of messages void of any
scientific content. My way of posting has another
advantage in that my work gets more coherent
and is more easily followed, also printed out
(several messages in one message). Also I
secure my work from a potential random loss
of messages from the archive.

Panu Petteri Höglund menaced me with reporting
me to Google for spamming, whereupon I wrote
my Open Letter to the Google Company (re Panu
Petteri Höglund) on September 19, 2008, in three
parts, wherein I also explain my particular way of
posting. I sent my letter to Google (reporting Panu
Petteri Höglund for stalking me). My Google account
was not closed down, no Google administrator and
no web official asked me to change my posting policy.
I feel free to go on with my work and with my way of
publishing and quoting in here, and I end this part of
my legal statement with the questions posed at the
end of my open letter from September 19: What is
the sense of storing terabytes of idle chatter? Why
does Google shoot nets if not hoping for fish, or,
in this case, ideas?

(end of part 2, to be continued)

Franz Gnaedinger, Zurich, October 13, 2008

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Legal statement regarding Panu Petteri Höglund,
part 1, my work in sci.lang

A former regular of sci.lang, Jacques Guy, pasted
a message of mine from sci.archaeology to sci.lang
without informing me. When I found out, I crossposted
the thread "Did the Trojan war really happen the way
Homer said it did?" to sci.lang. In that long thread
I interpreted symbols in Homer - in Homer as focus
of the ancient world. We can read Homer, we get all
his words, but do we really understand him? No, I say,
not until we comprehend the symbols. For example
the Trojan war was caused by beautiful Helen of the
white arms. Can anyone believe this? Hardly. But
Helen is not a woman in Homer, she is the symbol
of tin of the white ingots, and she is surrounded by
a whole family of metals. Tin was rare and precious
in the Bronze Age, it came from the Ore Mountains
in Middle Europe, and from Central Asia, and was
in either way bound to pass Troy ...

Sharing ideas is the reason and purpose of posting
to the Usenet. I do share my ideas, I got plenty
ideas, I work in the Usenet, I do not chat and fool
around, and often I publish a new idea on the same
day or on the next morning (for example the one
about Helen). For all the years I spent in Usenet
groups I have been attacked, in every which way,
and perpetually. I was offended time and again,
made fun of, insulted, confronted with every ad
hominem and plenty of lies, even stalked. I am
getting attacked all the time, perpetually, as I said.
First I reply in a scientific way, using scientific
arguments. If it doesn't help I use humor. Colin Fine,
a former member of sci.lang, complimented me
on my humor: I keep it, however hard I am being
attacked. But when the attacks go on for too long
a time, I give back. It is not healthy to swallow all
the poison people spit in my face. Now I am a true
scientist, I got ideas, ergo my words have a weight,
and when I finally, after having issued several warnings,
give back, people wonder that their behaving - they
had been so cozy in their endless attacks on me -
can have consequences, and does have consequences.

Jacques Guy, whom I mentioned above, and who had
made a lot of fun of me, protected me in a most decided
and vigorous way in a bad case of stalking by the end
of 2004 and begin of 2005. I thanked him, and I consider
him a true son of Voltaire's country (not being of my
opinion, he defended my freedom of speech). In early
2005 I reconstructed an amazing lunisolar calendar
from ideograms in the Lascaux cave, looked out for
a matching language, found none in literature, began
reconstructing one myself using the approach by Prof.
Dr. Richard Fester, working first in an intuitive way,
then discovering four laws, using them for mining groups
of Magdalenian words, as I call them, and now I use
them for etymologizing words from recent languages,
for example English bear. Proto-Indo-European PIE
explains bear as the Brown One. I explain bear as
the Furry One, provider of the best fur, thick, longhaired,
soft and warm. As nobody can disprove my etymology,
nor provide new and better evidence for the PIE etymology,
I feel free to go on with my Magdalenian experiment,
in my terms, and in my specific ways of posting (that
will be the topic of the next part of my legal statement
regarding Panu Petteri Höglund). People can always
discuss with me, but in a scientific way. I always tell
them the same: if you don't like what I say, pick out
the worst I say - the worst in your opinion - and I shall
discuss it with you, and at any length you like, this
being the proper way of discussing in a scientific forum,
and the proper way to get somewhere.

(end of part 1, to be continued)

Franz Gnaedinger, Zurich, October 12, 2008

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Introduction into my new thread
(and a warning to Panu Petteri Höglund)

I will start my new Magdalenian thread, the third one,
with an improved version of my etymology of English
bear. You may remember: PIE explains bear as the
brown one, Magdalenian as the furry one, provider
of the best fur, thick, longhaired, soft and warm.

Then I will go on in my usual way, discussing in
other threads - answering questions if I can shed light
on a word from my vantage point -, and then publish
a concise version here in this thread. Which is my
publishing thread, and not a chatroom for others.
There is already more than enough chatting going on
in this forum, notabene a scientific forum. I wish to
keep my publishing thread lean, and I hope the
majority of people in here will respect my wish.

(By the end of my former Magdalenian thread, on
September 19, I had to write an open letter to the
Google company regarding Panu Petteri Höglund
alias craoibhi. He does himself harm by harassing
and stalking me. He should just keep away from me.
I know the value of my work. He can't make himself
a name by molesting me, or only a bad one. If he
can't leave me in peace and keep away from this
thread, I will have to write an addendum to my open
letter to the Google company. He once told me that
it was a bad idea to attack me and make fun of me.
Now has come the time to draw the consequences,
or to take the consequences on himself. - I had sent
a copy of my open letter to the Google conmpany
to the Google company, reporting Panu Petteri
Höglund as my online stalker. I will send them also
the addendum, if I really have to write it. In my open
letter from September 19, delivered in two parts,
I also explain my peculiar way of posting and quoting
from my own messages. My open letter can easily
be retrieved from the archive of the groups maintained
by Google.)

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