Re: Origin of Ge. saberdzneti / berdz

On Oct 16, 8:01 am, Nikos Sarantakos <sar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all

The words for Greece and the Greeks in various languages fall into
three groups. By far the biggest is the Greece group (Grece,
Griechenland, Kreikka etc.), originating from Γραικοί/Graikoi and . A
second group uses words originating from Ιωνες/Ionians, like the
Turkish Yunanistan. A third smaller group uses names originating from
Hellenes Ελληνες. All this is summarized here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Greece

However, the Georgian name is the odd man out, using the word
Saberdzneti from Greece. Greeks are Berdz, although I don't know if
and how this is declined. Note that Georgia is called Sakartveli in
Georgian but not many other countries' names begin with Sa- (there is
Safrangeti for France).

My question is, what is the origin of the word Berdz for Greeks.

A good moment to have a look at the origin of the
Greeks. I believe they were miners. The very ancient
word for the Underworld was KAL, preserved in
Hel-lenes, Kel-toi, Cel-ts, Gal-lia, Hel-vetii, referring
to mines. KAL is also present in hell German Hölle.
The once beautiful Underworld KAL turned into a hell
with the labor of mining. The Celts were miners,
and most of the lower classes labored in mines.
The importance of metals is also outlined by Homer
in the Odyssey. Beautiful Helen of the white arms
is not really a woman, she is a metal, the symbol of
tin, by then very rare and precious, coming from the
Ore Mountains in Middle Europe and from Central
Asia, in either way bound to pass Troy ... Helen's
husband xanthos Menelaos is the symbol of copper,
the color xanthos covering all hues of copper ore,
yellow, brown, red. Their daughter, lovely Hermione
who resembled golden Aphrodite, is the symbol of
bronze, alloy of copper and tin, of a golden shine
when freshly cast. Menelaos had a slave mistress
who is a symbol of andrasit, a natural alloy of tinc
and copper - tinc in enslaved form, as it were
(by then found in the Troas), and their son, strong
late come Megapenthes, is the symbol of brass,
harder than bronze, and arriving late in the
family of metals. Now for the term Greeks, which,
you say, comes from Graikoi. In this word I see
the root GRA for a cave with painted walls (like
for example Lascaux and Altamira). In the metal
era, this word shifted, the decoration of the walls
were now the natural minerals and metals, the
veins of copper and so on, hinting again at the
origin of the Greeks. And now Berz: in this word
I recognize a derivative of BIR for fur, especially
bear fur. So I dare propose the original Greeks
were rather wild chaps wearing bear skins and
laboring in mines between Anatolia and Central
Asia, came to Thessali in the fourth millennium
BC and reached the Argolis in around 2 800 BC.

.

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