Re: How is Hoooo pronounced?

analyst41@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Oct 17, 10:32 am, analys...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Oct 17, 9:03 am, "ranjit_math...@xxxxxxxxx"

<ranjit_math...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
LEXICAL QUANTITY IN JAPANESE AND FINNISH
Toshiko Isei-Jaakkola
In Japanese a vowel sequence with a maximum of four vowel phonemes is
possible as
listed in the above section. Since the Japanese aoi does not have a
morphological
boundary, there may be triphthongs in Japanese. A sequence of four
identical vowels is
exemplified as follows:
Toooo /to|o.o|o/ (‘Eastern Europe’)
Hoooo /ho|o.o|o/ (‘Pope’).
What do the vertical bars and the dots mean?
This unbelievable (but apparently true).

Europe = youroppa, yo-roppa

East = azuma, touzainanboku, higashi, roppou, i-suto

<to u za i na N bo ku> [to:zainamboku] approximately, except [u] is unround, is "east west south (and) north." 'Azuma' referred to the eastern part of Japan and is sometimes written with the same character as <to u> (from Chinese 'tong' = "east") but only meant "the East" in that special sense. 'Roppou' is 'touzainanboku' + "heaven" and "earth," the "six directions."

How could they possibly get toooo by putting them together? and its
not as if they have had centuries and centuries of lenition to produce
this amazing word.

at least in the case of 'Pope' there is some idea how pretty much all
the consonants got lost.

houou, kyoukou, kyouou

houou < *[papwaN] Chinese for "King of Law." kyoukou < something like *[keuhwang]. Take the phonetics as loose, but not too loose, approximations.

Bart Mathias
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