Re: The Spelling with English Words
- From: "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:33:18 -0700 (PDT)
On Nov 1, 8:50 am, "Richard Wordingham" <jrw0...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Oct 31, 1:17 pm, "Richard Wordingham" <jrw0...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Doesn't trubble rhyme with rubble?
What I find frustrating is that spelling revolutionaries oftenIs 'trubble' a typo for 'trobble'?
distract us from the fact that there are some pretty unobjectionable
reforms possible.
E.g. Ar, wer, hart, frend, braud, vue, trubble, dubble, thrue,
pritty, verry, teer, feer, munky, tun(already an established, older
spelling), scool, wurry,
Not in everyone's speech - not even when the rhyme scheme demands it! (I
hadn't been aware that the RP pronunciations of 'trouble' and 'double'
rhymed.)
They certainly do in American. What other option is there?
Resorting to Youtube as a quick way of finding recorded
utterances, I first heard Shampoo's recording of 'Uh Oh, We're in Trouble'.
That had, bowing to convention, /A./, /V"/, /V"/ for <trouble>, <bubble> and
<double>. The next version (from 'St Trinians') did have /V"/ for all three
words. The next example I found was /A./: 'Trouble Man' by Martin Gaye.. My
fourth example may be biased, but Simon and Garfunkel definitely perform
'Bridge over Trobbled Water'.
If so, that has more to do with vocal production during singing than
with spoken pronunciation. But the three words will still all rhyme
perfectly.
But we have a loose principle in English that the second letter of a
digraph is a consonant if it comes at the end of the morpheme. So eu
\ew ou\ow, au\aw ai\ay .
But not in your proposals 'vue' and 'thrue' above. Are you amending them to
'vew' and 'threw'?
"Snoe" would damage recognition and create a thing confusable with
"oi" as in "groin". Also, "Snow", by having a "w" links up nicely with
"snew".
Snew?
I think you're looking for "grow" and "grew".
Richard.
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