Re: Hlaford (lord, glavar) - the head of a tribe?

On Dec 1, 10:57 am, "Ekkehard Dengler" <ED...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dusan Vukotic wrote:
On Dec 1, 8:02 am, "Ekkehard Dengler" <ED...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:55 pm, "Ekkehard Dengler" <ED...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:56 pm, Weland <gi...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:53 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Weland wrote:

Du¹an Vukotiæ wrote:

Of course, hlaford is not a loanword from Serbian ["glavar"
(chief) or "glavurda" (big head)]. It was a little joke of
mine [a (mis) calculated provocation :-(].

Uh huh.

Nevertheless, these words are clearly related, because they
all "speak" about the round-shaped objects (glava head,
globus, lobus, lump, gomila heap, zemlja humus, caput etc.)
and they are also representing "the head of a tribe,
family". This is the reason why I am saying that lord
(hlaford, haefod) is related to Serbo-Slavic "glavar",
"glavatar" (chief) as well as it is related to the other
words for "ruler", like cief, chieftain, captain, capo...

Well, now you're moving goal posts. You said that hlaford was
a loanword from Serbian. You were wrong. And now you say that
was just a joke and shift to a different discussion entirely.

Weland, meet Dusan. This is his standard operating procedure:
moving goal posts and endless and baffling streams of words
that get further and further from what was being discussed in
the first place while doing nothing to support his original
claims--rather, just more and more claims that are no more
acceptable than the original ones.-

Also, when Douchie says "related," he means no more than
'semantic similarity'; he has never managed to learn that
that's not what linguistics or philology means by 'related'.

So I perceive in this brief discussion so far. Good to have my
suspicions confirmed.-

There used to be quite a few linguists here, but they've been
driven away by the likes of Douche [...]

What makes you think it's okay to call him "Douchie/Douche"?

How else would you spell his hypocoristic in English?

Since Dusan is not a friend of mine, I wouldn't be using any
hypocoristics in the first place, but if I had to, I would obviously
prefer <sh> to <ch>. I hope you're not trying to convince me that
the similarity between your spellings and "douchebag" is
unintentional.

Where are your complaints about his manipulation of the names of
just about every poster to this newsgroup?

"Just about every poster" seems an exaggeration, but I'm certainly
not saying Dusan isn't guilty of the same thing. It's just sad to
see you stooping to that level. I don't think it's a good idea to
reserve your common decency for people who haven't been putting
forward misguided etymologies.

Regards,
Ekkehard

Do not worry Ekkehard,
I don't mind; he can call me whatever he likes.

Of course, I would prefer a serious debate instead of a prejudiced a
priori rejection of anything that doesn't fit into his narrow-
scientific realm of a ludicrously-ambitious-self-destructive
persiflage.

Don't get me wrong. Your etymologies are being rejected for good reason.
They are certainly imaginative, but unfortunately fail to make the least bit
of linguistic sense, which makes it almost impossible to enter into any kind
of meaningful discussion about them, just as a climatologist would find it
difficult to seriously discuss whether Wednesdays tend to be hotter than
Thursdays. I don't think you appreciate how immensely patient Harlan has
been with you.

Regards,
Ekkehard

The problem is that the most of the people on this forum are heavily
burdened with the "scientific" teaching of modern linguistic. Of
course, such a knowledge is helpful (useful) but it also may be
extremely hindering, in sense of preventing people to see the wood
behind the "all-knowing tree".

Additionally, it is impossible to understand what I am talking about
if the reader is not familiar with some of the Slavic languages,
because the internal logic and kinship among the words are not so
precise in Germanic, Romance and Greek vocabulary.

DV
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