Re: Greek Psi

analyst41@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:41 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
analys...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 27, 3:42 am, f...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 26, 5:59 pm, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Test case" implies falsifiability. You keep stating proudly that your
conjectures are unfalsifiable, meaning that they are immune to testing.
You don't seem to understand what you are talking about at all.
BIR means fur, especially the fur on which a newborn was laid
(a peculiar meaning imposed by the permutation group, for,
as I said many times, Magdalenian words don't come alone
but in groups). The word has many derivatives, also of the
second and third degree - a great many derivatives I listed
up in five subsequent messages in my thread Magdalenian
experiment (near the begin of that thread, to be retrieved
via the Google interface of sci.lang). Yesterday I heard
Bob Dylan's song Man Gave Name to All the Animals and
was amused about the first animal he namd: man saw an
animal that liked to growl and had furry hair, so he thought
he will name it a bear ... That's exactly my explanation of
bear as the furry one, provider of the best fur, thick, longhaired,
soft and warm. My explanation can't be falsified and disproved
by anyone. And nobody could provide new and better evidence
for the PIE explanation of bear as the brown one, which, in my
opinion, is a lame explanation, someone looked up the six
homonyms *bher- and thought *bher- 'brown' fit best for the
bear. I can easily unite the six *bher- homonyms under BIR,
and as fur very often is brown, also this aspect is included
in my explanation. You Americans like competition, but not
in sci.lang, you want PIE being the only language model,
you like to have a monopole, you build up a wall of bricks.
With my excellent Magdalenian etymology of bear I pose
a real callenge, now you should show me and the lurkers
how good PIE is, how it can cope with the views of alleged
cranks, but you can't, you don't give me any evidence for
the brown one, bear is just the brown one because you say
so (using your favorite turn of phrase), albeit even the PIE
hardliner Trond Engen is not happy about the brown one.
Being such a lame etymology. Leading nowhere. While
my BIR led me far since last August, when I went for the
etymology of bear, even to a cosmic fur, namely the fur
BIR of the fur giver BIR GID which contained the primeval
world BIR LAD and is depicted as a form I call 'bowl' on
pillar 31 of temple D, Göbekli Tepe, in a hieroglyphic
inscription I identified as origin of Genesis 1:1 in the Bible:
)OG BIR AC CA
(also in my Magdalenian thread). Fertility, a word coming
from BRI meaning fertile, is the first test of a new hypothesis
that must solve problems and open windows and alleys,
real test cases are then only a question of time. And, by the
way, what are the test case you offer in testing the etymology
of bear as the brown one? does bear mean the brown one
just because you say so, no test and no evidence needed?
Yes - the establishmentarians know fully well that not a shread of
what they call PIE can be proved or tested in any way with what we
know up to now - and so their throwing fasifiablity in your face is
nonsensical.
You seem not to know the difference between "falsified" and "proved". Of
course, every hypothesis of PIE theory can be falsified, as soon as a
counterexample comes along that doesn't fit the current state of the
model. That is, in fact, why PIE theory keeps changing.

Let us for the moment overlook that there is no one PIE theory agreed
to by the establishment.

What would be an example of a datum "falsifying" PIE theory as of a
certain point in time and how did theory change to accomodate it?

I need to demonstrate to you that conjectures have come and go and that the model has changed? Read up on the history yourself.


Let me even help you here. They say that the discovery of Tocharian
changed the received opinion up to that time about the Kentum-Satem
split.

But that didn't occur because anything was falsified- all that
happened was that one unprovable assertion was replaced by another
unprovable assertion.

You still seem not to understand the concept of falsifying, nor its central role in separating science from what Franz is doing. The one assertion was shown false, so it was rejected. Another conjecture was chosen, which is also falsifiable. Yes, it is another conjecture. You have already been told here that no one argues that the reconstructions are perfect, solid facts. It has been explained to you that PIE theorists know perfectly well that the model at any given time is subject to revision. Yet you perpetuate the fiction that it's a blind and unyielding dogma, so that you can hang onto your self-perceived role as the hero revealing the truth.
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    ... And I can explain a lot of words PIE can't. ... bear as the furry one vs. bear as the brown ... I derive bear from BIR that means fur, ...
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  • Re: Greek Psi
    ... BIR means fur, especially the fur on which a newborn was laid ... he will name it a bear ... ... for the PIE explanation of bear as the brown one, which, in my ... I can easily unite the six *bher- homonyms under BIR, ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Greek Psi
    ... BIR means fur, especially the fur on which a newborn was laid ... he will name it a bear ... ... for the PIE explanation of bear as the brown one, which, in my ... I can easily unite the six *bher- homonyms under BIR, ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Bear, a Magdalenian test case
    ... brown one, from *bher- 'brown', and as the wild one, ... BIR meaning fur, ... hence BIR is also the origin of PIE *bher- 'brown'. ... The bear provides the best fur, longhaired, soft ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Bear, a Magdalenian test case
    ... BIR meaning fur, ... hence BIR is also the origin of PIE *bher- 'brown'. ... The bear provides the best fur, longhaired, soft ... be a further derivative of BIR, as hair German Haar. ...
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