Re: Requalivahanus


The Romans had gods for all occasions and purposes,
even an altar for the unknown god (so they were on
the safe side). All main deities had minor gods for
helpers. When a farmer fertilized his fields he implored
Sterculianus (reminds me of my teacher of ancient Greek
who used to say or rather sigh that we won't be lost if we
don't learn our lessons, for we still have the option of
becoming stercorators). When a farmer ploughed for the
first time he implored Vervactor, when he ploughed for
the second time Redorator, and when he sowed Sator.

Sator was in all probability a helper of Saturn who had
founded the Golden Age of Latium. Satuvahanus could
have been a further helper of Saturn, warding off evils
in the name of the god, perhaps also appeasing Lua,
Saturn's first wife who made seeds germinate but
then again hindered them from germinating. Specifically,
Satuvahanus could have returned or warded off spells
made in the name of Lua in her negative aspect (say,
if someone sacrificed to Lua and implored her to harm
someone by hindering his seeds from germinating).

I explain Saturnus via SA TYR NOS, mind NOS of the
one who overcomes in the double sense of rule and
give TYR from above SA. A permutation of these words
is present in the Etruscan inscription on a shard found
in the agora of Athens reading TYRSANOS. His helper
was good in the sense of able, DhAG, together
SA TYR DhAG NOS, and this may have been polished
down to Satuvahanus, and when Saturn descended from
the sky to the Underworld and became the towering king
RAG of the Underworld KAL, his helper turned to
RAG KAL DhAG NOS, polished off to Requalivahanus.

When we have only a little wee teeny tiny bit of
information on an ancient god such as Requalivahanus
we best explore all possibilities, hoping that one day
a new fact may turn up and decide the case.

Douglas G. Kilday is back in his old vigor. Pleasure
and bliss! He posted a very long message that shows
what can be done in the much decried Usenet: a group
such as sci.lang can really become a scientific forum,
even a global version of Plato's academy, if more people
were willing to publish original ideas in the Usenet and
consider it a tool for scientific work.

I agree on pretty much everything Douglas says while
still believing that Requalivahanus was a minor god,
not the Returner of Darkness or rather of the Darkener
himself but a helper of this god. But who was this god?
It might have been the sun archer known from the
Armenian Bronze Age, studied by Gregory E. Areshian.
He/she was an androgynous deity, both man and woman,
god and goddess. Areshian uses the name Tir which
I give as TYR, he or she who overcomes in the double
sense of rule and give, wherefrom SA TYR NOS, mind
NOS of the one who overcomes TYR from above SA.
A bronze figurine shows Tir with a dog covered in flames,
for Areshian an androgynous Hercules holding Kerberos
on the leash. If that male/female Hercules was also Tir
or TYR, the dog could have been the able helper DhAG,
together TYR DhAG which would have become *tiwaz
and then Tir, name of the Norse god of justice and war.

I am especially pleased about the three matrones who
were honored on December 19, 21, and 23,. The name
of the first matron, Acca, reminds me of the Indo-European
earth goddess akka (Pokorny) whose name preserves
the original name of the Göbekli Tepe: where the earth AC
and the sky CA are meeting. Saturn was celebrated on
December 17, the time when the winter nights grow longer
and longer and when the sun archer is busy fighting the
growing darkness that threatens to swallow up all of the day.

When SA TYR NOS, Etruscan TYRSANOS, descended from
the sky and became the god of the Underworld, he would
have become the towering king RAG of the Underworld KAL
while still being the sun archer, helping the sun find the way
through the labyrinth of the Underworld, and his helper
in this task was the fox, another derivative of DhAG which
means good in the sense of able, guide through the Underworld
from the era of the Göbekli Tepe to the Celtic times and
mythology (a charming stater from Brittany shows the sun
horse of early morning, under it the snout of a fox peeping
out of a cave, the fox that had led the sun horse through
the labyrinth of the Underworld). Another derivative of DhAG
is Latin dux 'leader'. And then a further helper would have been
SA TYR DhAG NOS who become RAG KAL DhAG NOS,
in the polished forms Satuvahanus and Requalivahanus.
I still believe that he fought a personalized form of darkness,
and am trying to find out who was responsible for the
ever growing darkness. There must have been a lost myth
at the base of it all.

Nyx personified the night for the ancient Greeks,
while Hekate personified darkness, and the Tartaros
was the place of the worst sinners, far below the
Hades, as far below the Hades as the sky is above
the earth. Hekate also was the goddess of witches
and of black magic.
.

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