Re: open letter to the Google company, on the value of the scientific groups
- From: Franz Gnaedinger <frgn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:15:02 -0700 (PDT)
On Sep 12, 7:55 pm, Trond Engen <trond...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Franz, before you go off on this one: Having the 'bear' named after its
colour isn't the stupidest part of it. As it happens, and I think you'll
remember since it (surely) was part of the discussion that triggered
your ursinal ravings months ago, the Germanic "bear" word is often seen
as related to the "brown" word, probably coming about as a taboo
replacement of the "ursus" word. The "ursus" word itself is likely to be
another taboo replacement. Other branches did similar things. These
taboo replacements are what makes an original PIE word invisible to
science. John's point is that to claim superiority in finding original
etymologies you should have more to show than just another taboo
replacement.
We had all that before. You are instructing me
as if I were a kindergarten boy. I quoted the great
Hemp on bear, also he proposes the brown one
in lieu of a better etymology, but his lines, which
I quoted one year ago, drip of irony, and he says
the taboo is too easily invoked. Brown one is
a taboo replacement, whereas furry one is not
but names the quality of the bear as provider
of the best fur, thick, long, and soft, a meaning
reflected in German Zottelbär 'shaggy bear'.
A Red Indian language calls the bear Fur Man,
and there is a similar name somewhere in Siberia.
I derive bear from the permutation group of BRI
meaning fertile. BIR means fur, ancient Greek byros
English fur, but has a more specific meaning in
being the fur on which a newborn was laid. This
very specific meaning results from the permutation
group and the second Magdalenian law that says
permutations yield words around the same meme,
and found a wonderful correspondence in archaeology,
newborns having been laid on bear furs in Greece,
and in eastern parts of the Slavic world until the
twentieth century. Then there is the bear mother
and nurse of the Balkans, 6,000 years old, and her
pouch for carrying the baby. You are doing a very
poor job, Trond Engen, you are not able to provide
new and better evidence for bear as the furry one,
and so you begin where we started off one year
ago, pretending all the long discussions in between
and all the evidence I presented did not happen
and are non-existent.
.
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