Re: Aleph nought is finite
From: Will Twentyman (wtwentyman_at_read.my.sig)
Date: 06/24/04
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:59:10 -0400
Andrew wrote:
> "Will Twentyman" <wtwentyman@read.my.sig> wrote in message
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>>Andrew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Leonard,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I hope that helps.
>>>>
>>>>Not at all. You did not address any of my objections whatsoever--you
>>>
>>>ignored
>>>
>>>>them. Specifically, my argument below the asterisks below is
>>>>irrefutable proof that your assertions were wrong.
>>>
>>>Let me try to explain why I have not addressed your objections. Imagine
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> two
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>>>brothers, Ted and Jon, are arguing about the shortest route home from
>>>school. Ted says he knows the shortest route and explains it to Jon.
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> Jon
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>>>does not believe him, even though he has never been home that way
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> before.
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>>>He argues about alternative routes which he is sure are faster hoping to
>>>show Ted is wrong by these examples. He argues about sections of
>>>alternative routes which can be clearly shorter than sections in the
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> route
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>>>Ted described - but all of Jon's arguments amount to nothing in respect
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> of
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>>>the route Ted has claimed. The only way Jon can legitimately determine
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> the
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>>>issue is to walk that specific route. Ted doesn't have to walk any of
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> Jon's
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>>>routes, the debate is over the legitimacy of Ted's route, and whether it
>>>does actually arrive at the specific effects he claimed for it.
>>>
>>
>>When part of Ted's instructions include, "Walk through the fence
>>seperating this alley from this road," it is natural for Jon to point
>>out alternatives and object, "You can't walk through a wall!"
>>
>
> Yes, but alternatives are not the same route. Objections don't count. It
> only counts if Jon tries the route and gets bounced off the fence. At which
> point he can go back to Ted, explain exactly what he did and what happened,
> and even then, Jon's experience only counts as a valid refutation if he
> shows that he followed all of Ted's directions to the letter - since even a
> slight deviation produces an entirely different route.
Which is what has been done to your arguments.
-- Will Twentyman email: wtwentyman at copper dot net
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