Re: What is the Result from Invoking this Halt Function?

From: Will Twentyman (wtwentyman_at_read.my.sig)
Date: 08/23/04 

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:56:52 -0400

>parr(*> wrote:

> Will Twentyman" <wtwentyman@read.my.sig> wrote in message
> news:4128fd3a_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> | >parr(*> wrote:
>
> [Excuse the dislocation of the thread - IE can't handle the
> reference history.]
>
> | > Assuming he's nota Troll, how are you going to
> | > persuade such a zealous kook that his dogmatic
> | > views on decidability/computability are
> | > questionable. Remember the quality of logical
> | > thought he demonstrates.
> |
> | Starting with getting some definitions agreed
> | to. One of the things I've noticed both in my
> | exchanges with Peter and those newstome has
> | had: Peter isn't using the same definitions that
> | the rest of us are. His ideas about the topic
> | under discussion have little or nothing to do
> | with how the rest of us are approaching the
> | topic. He also doesn't seem to understand that
> | the Church-Turing Thesis is an idea of how things
> | should work. TMs appear to be able to do
> | anything a person could do by hand with pencil
> | and paper. TMs are not necessarily able to do
> | things a person could not do by hand.
>
> Almost all the participants in this saga have tried
> to get some sort of agreement. As soon as Peter senses that
> someone's about to pin him down, he uses some spurious argument
> like 'proving a negative', or dives into some
> incomprehensibility. And he seldom replies to the whole of any
> post more than 10 lines long. I've read some of his other posts
> in other groups on other topics and often they seem sane and
> rational. Which, to me, makes it even more weird/troll-like the
> way he reacts here.

I've noticed that he stops responding to people who try to get him to
commit to specifics. He's responding to a steadily decreasing
percentage of my posts. Given that, I'll probably let the current
discussions between him and me die out, then stop responding. I've
noticed that newstome is having a lot of difficulty getting Peter to
state anything clearly, or agree to anything that has been stated clearly. 

-- 
Will Twentyman
email: wtwentyman at copper dot net

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