Re: Existence as predicate
From: Keynes (Keynes_at_earthlinkspam.net)
Date: 08/29/04
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:08:24 -0500
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 13:17:01 -0400, The Sophist <sophist@brown.edu> wrote:
>Terry Firma wrote:
>> This is an attempt at refuting Kant's claim that a thing's existence can't
>> be a predicate:
>>
>> Since everything is connected ("hangs together") - there are no absolute
>> dividing lines / there is no empty space - everything must have a *common
>> denominator*; this common denominator must be necessary (since everything is
>> necessary / has at least one cause); therefore general existence must have a
>> necessary component/aspect in order to exist (therefore existence is a
>> quality/predicate).
>
>Let's see. David Lewis denied that everything is connected, and while
>his view may be false, I know of no conclusive arguments to that effect.
> I am not sure what you mean when you say that there is no empty space.
> However, even if everything were connected, this would not entail the
>existence of a common denominator. Even if we assume that things must
>share something in common to be connected, object 1 might be connected
>to object 2 by sharing A, and object 2 might be connected to object 3 by
>sharing B, and objects 1 and 3 might then be connected without sharing
>anything in common. You seem to assume that things which are not
>necessary must have causes, which seems not to be the case (popular
>interpretations of present quantum theory deny this). Finally, even if
>everything that existed needed to have a component in common, that would
>not entail that this common component would be existence.
>
>Rather a stunning amount of mistakes for such a short argument, I must say.
What is disconnected must be free of the web of causation.
Causal connections of the past are considered necessary to
produce the present. The past is all about necessity.
We consider the future to be conditional and the past to
be unconditional. This must be a flaw in our concept of time,
because we suppose the future to be of a different nature than
the past, and at the same time accept the past as a fossilization
of the future (of past 'times')..
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