Re: Where was Touri between July 18 and 20, 2004?
From: Barbara Schwarz (StilllovingMarty_at_myway.com)
Date: 09/29/04
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Date: 29 Sep 2004 13:58:11 -0700
"|-|erc" <spam@fodder.abc> wrote in message news:<H_n6d.7628$5O5.1392@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> "Barbara Schwarz" <StilllovingMarty@myway.com> wrote in >
> > Below is a really interesting article, Herc, did you read it?
> >
> ...
> >
> > > The Brain-Butchery Called
> > >
> > >
> > > PSYCHOSURGERY
>
> > > by Lawrence Stevens, J.D.
> > >
> > > Most people think psychosurgery, or lobotomy, is not done anymore.
> > > Unfortunately, this is not true. In fact, as New York University School of
> > > Medicine psychiatry professors Harold I. Kaplan and Benjamin J. Sadock say in
> > > their textbook Clinical Psychiatry, published in 1988, "interest in
> > > psychosurgical approaches to psychiatric disorders has only recently been
> > > rekindled" (Williams & Wilkins, 1988, p. 381). An article in the March 1999
> > > Journal of Clinical Neuroscience titled "Contemporary Psychosurgery" says
> > > "Psychosurgery is a safe and relatively effective treatment which should be
> > > offered to patients with intractable obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), major
> > > affective disorders, and chronic anxiety states after a minimal period of 2 to 5
> > > years and after all other reasonable treatments have been tried" (J.V. Rosenfeld
> > > & J.H. Lloyd, Departments of Neurosurgery and Neuropsychiatry, The Royal
> > > Melbourne Hospital, Parkville, Australia, J. Clin Neurosci 1999
> > > Mar;6(2):106-112).
> >
> > What it means is that when psychs to decide that after 2-5 years you
> > are not the person that they dictate you should be, those dictators
> > can just take your brains out. If that doesn't give you the chills,
> > you are nothing but a stupid psych troll.
>
> That is correct. Psychiatrists in the medico legal system are licensed to force treatment
> on patients that have null symptoms. Citizens can also be detained and treated without criminal
> charge just for seeming unwell.
True, and that is the real world. People most of the time don't want
to believe it till they themselves or a family member or a friend
becomes the victim of these kind of corruption.
>
>
> >
> >
> > > The first I recall learning about psychosurgery, or lobotomy, was in an abnormal
> > > psychology class I took in college when our professor, a psychologist, described
> > > the operation to us. One type of lobotomy he described involves drilling two
> > > holes in the "patient's" skull on each side of the forehead at the top at about
> > > the hairline to allow access to the frontal lobes of the brain where
> > > intellectual mental functioning, thinking, and creation of emotion is believed
> > > to take place. In one version he described a cylindrical shaped device that
> > > resembles an apple corer is inserted into both sides of the brain, and a
> > > cylindrical shaped piece of each frontal lobe is removed. In other versions of
> > > the operation, a scalpel is inserted to sever connections in the frontal lobes
> > > or between the frontal lobes and other parts of the brain. In one type of
> > > lobotomy, instead of drilling holes in the skull, each eyeball is moved to the
> > > side, and a scalpel is inserted through each eye socket into the frontal lobes
>
> This was the infamous widespread operation in the 60s. Labotomy was accepted for a time from
> a small trial on Apes that lost their aggression. See if you can find any info on a psychiatrist
> called "Icepick". That was the instrument he used. He travelled to numerous hospitals to
> the wards where people had 'psychological problems' and just went from bed to bed and
> used an icepick through their eye socket. He would labotamise 20 people an hour, I wonder what
> the quality of life is for any survivers today.
>
>
> > > of the brain, and, our professor said, "the scalpel is moved like this", as he
> > > wiggled his finger from side-to-side. In his book Molecules of the Mind: The
> > > Brave New Science of Molecular Psychology, University of Maryland Professor Jon
> > > Franklin describes the same operation this way: "forcing a thin, ice pick-like
> > > instrument through the patient's eye socket and then waving the point around in
> > > the brain"
> >
> > Yuck! Disgusting!
> >
> > (Dell Pub. Co., 1987, p. 64). In their textbook Synopsis of
> > > Psychiatry, published in 1988, psychiatry professors Harold I. Kaplan and
> > > Benjamin J. Sadock say the "surgical" instrument used in transorbital lobotomy
> > > or leukotomy not only is "like" an ice pick; they say it is an ice pick (p.
> > > 531). According to two supporters of psychosurgery, the inventor of this method
> > > of psychosurgery was Dr. Walter Freeman, and "His [Dr. Freeman's] initial
> > > operating instrument was in fact an icepick taken from his kitchen drawer"
>
> There it is. Sounds like Freeman was the one who did all those unnecessary 'operations'.
> He should be shot.
>
> >
> > What a butcher.
> >
>
> My friend did medicine at Uni and says the frontal lobe is a great mystery to medicine.
I say that everything is a great mystery for the psychs. But they have
lots of dangerous treatments against what they don't understand.
Barbara Schwarz
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