Re: Comparing DC Proof with Metamath proof software

From: Dan Christensen (dchris_at_allstream.net)
Date: 10/01/04


Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:15:29 -0400


"Mike Oliver" <mike_lists@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:2s5gebF1h61fnU2@uni-berlin.de...
> Dan Christensen wrote:
>
> > Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that group theory is
just
> > those results that can be derived from the group axioms.
>
> I think the usual name for that is "elementary group theory". It's
> not terribly interesting--it consists of a lot of statements
> like
> (forall a)(forall b)(b^2=e --> abba=a^2)
>
> It's only a minuscule fraction of what goes under the name
> "group theory".

You mean the group axioms plus others, e.g. the binary operator being
commutative, or the underlying set being finite?

Also, in developing the theory (writing proofs in group theory), isn't there
always just one underlying set (unless, of course, you have a theorem about
two or more groups), plus maybe the natural numbers under consideration at
any one time? Don't most proofs start with something like, let (g,+) be an
arbitary group, with underlying set g and binary operator +, plus any other
axioms, e.g. + being commatative? That's what we have been disputing here.
Another opinion would be appreciated.

Dan
Download DC Proof 1.0 at http://www.dcproof.com



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