Re: Converting Fundy Repug Preachers

From: Welsh Neanderthal (urg_at_ugh.org)
Date: 10/25/04 

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:09:32 -0700

One way is to take away their Google. Another good method
is to catch them spending prayer cloth and Love offering money
for hookers. A third is to send them on Missions with plenty
of Tabasco sauce and mayonnaise and provide meals for hungry
cannibals.

"Immortalist" <Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:urqdnZuW44Fz1uDcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
> The more well informed the members of the audience are, the less likely
> they are
> to be persuaded by a one-sided argument and the more likely they are to be
> persuaded by an argument that brings out the important opposing arguments
> and
> then proceeds to refute them.
>
> On the other hand, an uninformed person is less apt to know of the
> existence of
> opposing arguments. If the counterargument is ignored, the less-informed
> members
> of the audience are persuaded; if the counterargument is presented, they
> may get
> confused.
>
> (3) One-Sided vs Two-Sided Arguments:
>
> Suppose you are about to make a speech attempting to persuade your
> audience
> that capital punishment is necessary. Would you persuade more people if
> you
> simply stated your view and ignored the arguments against capital
> punishment, or would you be more persuasive if you discussed the opposing
> arguments and attempted to refute them? Before trying to answer this
> question, let us try to understand what is involved. If a communicator
> mentions the opposition's arguments, it might indicate that he or she is
> an
> objective, fair-minded person; this could enhance the speaker's
> trustworthiness and thus increase his or her effectiveness. On the other
> hand, if a communicator so much as mentions the arguments on the other
> side
> of the issue, it might suggest to the audience that the issue is
> controversial; this could confuse members of the audience, make them
> vacillate, and ultimately reduce the persuasiveness of the communication.
> With these possibilities in mind, it should not come as a surprise to the
> reader that there is no simple relation between one-sided arguments and
> the
> effectiveness of the communication. It depends to some extent upon how
> well
> informed the audience is: The more well informed the members of the
> audience
> are, the less likely they are to be persuaded by a one-sided argument and
> the more likely they are to be persuaded by an argument that brings out
> the
> important opposing arguments and then proceeds to refute them. This makes
> sense: A well-informed person is more likely to know some of the
> counterarguments. When the communicator avoids mentioning these, the
> knowledgeable members of the audience are likely to conclude that the
> communicator is either unfair or unable to refute such arguments. On the
> other hand, an uninformed person is less apt to know of the existence of
> opposing arguments. If the counterargument is ignored, the less-informed
> members of the audience are persuaded; if the counterargument is
> presented,
> they may get confused.
>
> Another factor playing a vital role is the initial position of the
> audience.
> As we might expect, if a member of the audience is already predisposed to
> believe the communicator's argument, a onesided presentation has a greater
> impact on his or her opinion than a two-sided presentation. If, however, a
> member of the audience is leaning in the opposite direction, then a
> two-sided refutational argument is more persuasive. Most politicians seem
> to
> be well aware of this phenomenon; they tend to present vastly different
> kinds of speeches, depending upon who constitutes the audience. When
> talking
> to the party faithful, they almost invariably deliver a hell-raising set
> of
> arguments favoring their own party platform and candidacy. If they do
> mention the opposition, it is in a derisive, mocking tone. On the other
> hand, when appearing on network television or when speaking to any
> audience
> of mixed loyalties, they tend to take a more diplomatic position, giving
> the
> opposing view a reasonably accurate airing before proceeding to demolish
> it.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vt49og3usfsbda%40corp.supernews.com
>
> The Social Animal - Elliot Aronson - 8th Edition 1999
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716733129/
>
>

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