Re: The Road with no Branches argument

From: Acme Diagnostics (LFinezapthis_at_partpostmark.net)
Date: 10/27/04


Date: 27 Oct 2004 08:54:14 -0500


Mike Oliver <mike_lists@verizon.net> wrote:
>Milan wrote:
>>
>> Weather is deterministic. We just dont have enough knowledge of all
>> variables.
>
>I believe you are wrong, Sir. Weather is a chaotic system; small
>effects produce bigger ones with time. I don't know how long it
>takes to multiply an effect by ten, but it doesn't take that
>many multiples of ten to change quantum uncertainty in an atom's position
>into Hurricane Imogene existing or not.
>
>I don't have anywhere close to enough knowledge of atmospheric
>physics to make a defensible estimate, but it wouldn't much
>surprise me to learn that the entire information content of the
>universe is insufficient, even in principle, to predict the
>weather in Dallas one year from tonight. But maybe it's
>five years, or fifty or five hundred: The point stands. There
>is no division into the ordinary macroscopic deterministic world
>and "that quantum stuff". The whole world is quantum, and
>indeterministic.

But since you say you are unqualified to present a defensible
example, then your opinion on the matter seems moot.



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