Re: and who made god?

From: X's Lover (together_at_hell.com)
Date: 10/28/04 

Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:02:23 -0400

In article <f301b05.0410271843.3d86910c@posting.google.com>,
 redafroeclipse@aol.com (King John II the Good) wrote:

> > The theist argument that god is the first cause is demolished by the
> > question, and who made god.
>
> There was a 5th century monk named Thomas Aquinas. He came up with
> a series of points proving why time cannot be infinite, there must be
> an innicial event to cause all predescesing events. Unfortunatly I
> cannot recall these points at the moment, however I do remember that
> over the past 1500 years 4 out of 5 of his points were proven wrong.
> Regardless, the question who created God, is completely irrelevent
> to the belief of God.

The formulation of this question is very odd. Why would anyone
hypothesize that a "who" created a god rather than a "what"?

> If God didn't exist, than the question of what
> created the Universe still persists. The explenation for beggining of
> the Universe under the theory of the Big Bang is just as shaky as the
> explenation that religion gives. No matter what you can say: and what
> started the big bang, or what caused God to appear.
> Asking who made God is a completely futile question. Its like
> trying to teach a dog self-awareness, human beings just cant
> comprehend such an immense concept as something coming from nothing.
> Its ultimatley a question on where your faith is, agnosticism,
> science, or religion.

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