Re: The definition of consciousness
From: hanson (hanson_at_quick.net)
Date: 11/29/04
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:35:28 GMT
"EL" <hemetis@hotmail.com> wrote
> I propose this definition:
> "" Consciousness is the awareness of being aware""
> The definition also is restricted to self-organising systems
> include a credit to me "EL Hemetis". [.....AHAHAHAHAHAHA]
EL, besides the glaring circle "awareness of being aware",
I get the uneasy feeling that your definition even has a 2nd ring
of being circular. Isn't self-organizing the underlaying,
fundamental basis/requirement for consciousness? Or,
doesn't consciousness imply the existence of self-organizing?
Vibes on another level tell me that you are aware of something
that you wanted to define, but you just didn't express it in/with
the right words. Then I get the impression that you are into ID.
Are you sure you haven't become religious, and not even being
aware of it? ....Did that gold-eater sect organize to get to you?
ahahahaha.......ahahahanson
"EL" <hemetis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dear colleagues,
> perhaps one of the most elusive definitions is that of consciousness.
> Recently, while I was contemplating on the fact that consciousness
> need not be binary in states, I have arrived at a very simple
> definition that demanded an immediate peer review.
>
> I have hope that the implications that could follow, if I had
> succeeded in pinpointing a correct definition, would be enormous and
> consequently applicable within some disciplines and research related
> to AI and neural networks. If this definition could be put practice
> then conscious machines would not be far fetched.
>
> I propose this definition:
>
> {
> Consciousness is the awareness of being aware.
> }
> N.B. Please use this definition only if you will to include a credit
> to me "EL Hemetis".
>
> Naturally this definition begs for a better than good definition of
> "Awareness".
>
> Please take note that I do not define the state of being conscious,
> which is synonymous to the state of being aware.
>
> One of the most appealing definitions of awareness is that it is a
> "Basic Access to Information".
> Nevertheless, I would like to propose an improvement to such a
> definition.
>
> I define awareness as "The Dynamic Containment of Information within a
> self-organising system during a Read cycle".
> N.B. Please use this definition only if you will to include a credit
> to me "EL Hemetis".
>
> The word "Dynamic" here should imply a temporal context along which
> the information may evolve and change or be reinforced as a
> consequence of a continuous flow of information from source to the
> container through physical transducers.
>
> The word "Containment" here implies also a temporal endurance of the
> evolving topology of such information within the geometry of the
> physical container.
>
> The word "Information" here boils down to a complex wave structure
> that demands energy to make it accessible.
>
> Finally, the word "Read" here implies a process in which the being
> contained information is being accessed.
>
> The definition also is restricted to self-organising systems due to
> obvious reasons.
>
> All your comments are very welcome.
>
> EL Hemetis.
> 24/11/2004
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