Re: Josephus was the Quelle for the New Testament and what the Josephus really wrote about Jesus

From: Archimedes Plutonium (a_plutonium_at_iw.net)
Date: 12/22/04 

Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:47:45 -0600

bernard_connor@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
(snip what I wrote)

>
> You continue to use the word terrorist in an absurd manner. Jesus and
> John the Baptist were men of peace. Josephus was a realist and
> excellent historian.
>
> Matthew was an ignorant Greek who sent Jesus riding into Jerusalem on
> two asses,(21.6) because of a misunderstanding of an ancient Hebrew
> poem by Zachariah(9.9) which he decided was a prophecy. Clearly he knew
> nothing about the style of ancient Hebrew poetry of the Zachariah era.
> It is doubtful whether he even knew any Hebrew.
>
> Bernard Connor

To the contrary. Suppose Al Queda meaning the "Camp" was transported in
time to the 1st century and Christos meaning "oiled down" after coming
home to a cave in 1st century were transported in time to the 21st
century.

Since Augustus Caesar was proclaimed "Son of God" and a coin struck with
that claim and then the later Caesars of Caligula etc etc also claimed the
"Son of God" moniker, would anyone be dazzled or amazed that others in the
Roman realm would consider themselves as "Son of God". Of course not, it
was a ancient craze or fad and especially for a conquered people such as
the Jews to mock the Romans with their own "Son of God".

And who best to wear the Jewish moniker of "Son of God" than a crucified
man named Jesus who saved his own son Barabbas from crucifixion by having
his lieutenant Judas negotiate a deal with the Romans that they crucify
him and save his son Barabbas. There is no-one in the Jewish realm better
to wear the moniker of son of god than Jesus because of his heroism for
saving his son Barabbas.

So if AlQueda were back in the 1st century and killing Romans instead of
Americans, the Jews would be praising AlQueda and making them heroes and
elevating them to the stature of deity or son-of-god and mocking the
Romans of Augustus the Son of God or Caligula the Son of God. And the
leader of AlQueda, hiding in caves just as Jesus terrorists or
John-the-Baptist terrorist network hid in caves. And using Religion as a
cover or ploy or disguise to recruit more terrorists.

Of course when the Christians by about 90 A.D. want to write the story of
Jesus they would have to substitute or replace the killing of Romans with
the preaching of another and more and more sermons. Instead of revealing
the truth about Jesus or John the Baptist that they carried knives and
swords and killed Romans they twist the truth into saying that they
preached another sermon.

And today the Christians would not be called Christians or "oiled down
fighters of Romans coming back to their caves and having their wives like
Mary Magdalene rub them with oil to feel good", no, instead they would be
called AlQuedans. And it would be Jesus AlQuedan and Christmas day would
be AlQuedan Day.

The point you have to learn Bernard is that the only Truth spelled with a
capital T is the truth that comes from Science. Science is God and God is
Science. Not dogma that was Augustus Caesar or Caligula or the dogma of
religions whether the religion is Jewish, Christian, Buddha, Islam, Hindu
etc etc. All of these are based on DOGMA. Science has no dogma. Science is
God and God is Science.

And because we know so very little about science, hence, we know so little
about God. Unlike these very many people in desert climates like the
Middle East who claim to know so much about God and who are quick to rouse
their fellow citizens into killing others in the name of God.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

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