Re: A new Arithmetic Principle?
- From: "george" <greeneg@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 23 May 2005 01:27:12 -0700
>
> MT1: There exist a first order formula that's decidable
> but we can not know which way it decides.
This IS NOT POSSIBLE, NO MATTER WHAT meta-theory
you adopt. It bears stressing that almost NO formulae
are just plain "decidable" (and none whatsoever are just
plain "undecidable"). Formulae are decidable or undecidable
FROM SOME PRIOR AXIOMS. Given ANY fixed axiom-set, it
is NOT possible for ANY formula to be both 1) decidable from it,
and 2) not known to be so. At worst, it can be not YET known
to be so. In this context, DECIDABLE MEANS
PROVABLE (or disprovable, i.e., means that either the formula
or its negation IS A LOGICAL CONSEQUENCE OF the axioms).
WhenEVER this is the case, THAT IS *ALWAYS* knowable.
You just start the prover running on the axioms and wait
to see which gets output: the formula or its negation.
If it's decidable then BY DEFINITION, ONE of them MUST get
output eventually. Equivalently, you start 2 copies of the
same first-order-contradiction-confirmation TM on 2 different
input tapes, 1 the conjunction of the axioms with the formula,
and the other the conjunction of the axioms with the denial
of the formula. ONE of these MUST be logically inconsistent,
and the TM will eventually confirm that it is, and halt saying
so, AND THEN you KNOW.
.
- Follow-Ups:
- Re: A new Arithmetic Principle?
- From: Nam Nguyen
- Re: A new Arithmetic Principle?
- References:
- Re: A new Arithmetic Principle?
- From: Nam Nguyen
- Re: A new Arithmetic Principle?
- Prev by Date: Re: when laypersons look smarter than math professors Re: a question for the anti-Cantorians
- Next by Date: Re: when laypersons look smarter than math professors Re: a question for the anti-Cantorians
- Previous by thread: Re: A new Arithmetic Principle?
- Next by thread: Re: A new Arithmetic Principle?
- Index(es):
Relevant Pages
|