Re: The Consise Cantor Disproof
- From: "george" <greeneg@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 24 May 2005 16:37:44 -0700
HERC777 wrote:
> >talking about "the probability that something was
> >randomly generated" then there is no hope for you.
>
> It's exactly what distinguishes you
> as an idiot with your stupid
> argument.
No, fool, that's you.
>
> r1 = 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000
> has approx. 10^-30
> confidence level of having being randomly generated.
It DOES NOT, DUMBASS.
IF you assume that 1) you are dealing with 50 independent
events here, and 2) that all 50 of them are drawn from the
same probability distribution, AND 3) that each event has
only 2 possible outcomes, 0 or 1, AND 4) that because of 3,
one simple rational between 0 and 1 will suffice to
characterize the underlying probability distribution
mentioned in 2), THEN you can get a confidence level.
But you do NOT get a confidence level about whether something
has been "randomly generated". What you get a confidence
level about is THE HYPOTHESIS OF WHETHER p (the probability
of a 1, as opposed to a 0; the probability of a 0 is q,
and q = 1-p) does or doesn't lie in a certain range.
I.e., you get a confidence level about whether p is or
isn't anwyhere near 1/2. THIS IS NOT THE SAME thing
as a confidence level about whether ANYthing has been
randomly generated! YOU ASSUME IN ADVANCE, BEFORE STARTING
ANYTHING, that OF COURSE these 50 outcomes have been
randomly generated! The question is, FROM WHAT UNDERLYING
PROBABILITY distribution have they been randomly sampled?
You are trying to MEASURE p when you do an experiment like
this, and what you get out of it is a degree of confidence
about whether p does or does not lie in SOME INTERVAL.
NO outcome proves ABSOLUTELY that ANY particular p
is impossible, if the sample is finite.
But this has nothing to do with THAT in ANY case.
In THIS experiment, you were NOT trying to measure p.
You were NOT trying to estimate p by taking a random
sample. IN THIS EXPERIMENT, WE ALREADY KNEW, BEFORE
THE EXPERIMENT BEGAN, WITH *100%* confidence, that
p=0.5=1/2, EXACTLY. So everything you are trying
to say about Monte Carlo and confidence intervals is
just irrelevant and backwards.
In other words, you suck even worse at statistics than
you do at computer science, and even worse at math than
you do at statistics.
.
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