Re: Turing completeness of the functional paradigm?
- From: "Tom" <tkorna@xxxxx>
- Date: 14 Jul 2005 04:24:32 -0700
Mr Elliot wrote:
> > It seems to be the case that _on the absolute scale of things_
> > temporality is entirely eliminable within the functional paradigm (with
> > the ideas of state / assignment being merely abstractions, and a state
> > machine simply a set of spatial, and atemporal sequences).
> >
> > (This is hinted by Prof. Abelson in a lecture on streams (L6b):
> > http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/
> > with a remark on the nonplausibility of such an approach
> > implementationally. Still, it is the absolute case that I am after.)
> >
> It is implausible the quote, tho grammatically correct, is coherent or if
> coherent, meaningful.
Yes, Mr Elliot. :-)
> > Actually, having pondered Peano's axioms a little more carefully, I
> > have concluded that there seem to be no nospatial relations whatsoever.
> >
> What's a nospatial relation?
Oh, I'm sorry. I meant a non-spatial relation really. Well, I meant
that no such thing can ever be (i.e. something inexpressible in Peano's
system, since as Godel showed through his numbering scheme, even FOL
can be expressed this way). Is that so? No nonspatiality whatsoever?
> > Please, is my thinking erroneous (again, on the absolute scale of
> > things, and not implementationally)?
> >
> Erroneous is a complement. I think it attains unto erudite gibberish.
Mr Elliot, I am very happy you kindly cared to criticize me. Thank you.
Kindest regards,
Tom
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