Re: "Friendly Premises"



Acme Diagnostics wrote:
>
> Jim Spriggs wrote:
> >Jesse Alama wrote:
> >
> >> Torkel ignored much of the post
> >> <42eb8beb$0$91626$bb4e3ad8@xxxxxxxxxxxx> and called attention to the
> >> part about "self-proving procedures" and "recursive proof". That may
> >> have been a snarky move, but I think Torkel's question needs to be
> >> answered if we are to fully understand your original post. To be
> >> honest, I am with Tokel on this one: I too don't know what you mean by
> >> "self-proving procedures" or "recursive proofs". I presume other
> >> readers of sci.logic are in the same boat. For our sake, tell us what
> >> you mean by "self-proving procedure" and "recursive proof".
> >
> >My guess was that "recursive proof" was an honest mistake for "proof by
> >induction". "self-proving procedure" intrigues me, where can I buy one?
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Seeing George's message reminded me that I had intended
> to compliment your two statements, before getting sidetracked.
>
> "Honest mistake" is exactly correct.

So, when you wrote "recursive proof" you meant precisely "proof by
induction"?

> Also appropriate considering
> that I qualified my statement with "perhaps... though I'm not
> that far along yet... I'm certain to have made ... terminological
> mistakes."
>
> "Where can I buy one" has just the right touch of humor to cancel
> any implied insult.

Certainly no insult was intended.

> I obviously made a mistake there too, since I
> intended to use a phrase that posters could figure out easily
> enough, failing miserably.

Can you give an alternative to "self-proving procedure"? Or give an
example, or a reference? Do you mean something like:

Mathematicians use mathematics to prove things about logic
while at the same time founding their mathematics on logic.

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