Re: What is the 1st order formal system known as PA?





David C. Ullrich wrote:



The parts of this that make sense, and are not simple misunderstandings on your part, have not been neglected,
they've very well known. To be more specific:


You evidently think that the function symbols in FOL
actually refer to specific n-ary relations. They do not.

They do not _until_ we start talking about an _interpretation_
of the language (a "model"). If we're talking about interpretations of first-order PA then yes, "S" can have
many different interpretations. Nobody has every said
otherwise - it's awesomely obvious that "S" can have
many different interpretations.



Yes, it's "awesomely" obvious that S can have many different [model-] interpretations. But it seems much less obvious that, up-and-down the ladder of mathematical _introspection_, model-interpretation is *not* the only kind of legitimate interpretation, albeit the fact it's the only kind we *normally* have to deal with. For example, what about the semantic-interpretation of the language (or of a portion of it)? Are you sure any 2 reasoning beings can _always_ agree what, say, a particular symbol of the language _mean_? And in this case, how can any 2 beings [human or not] guarantee that they semantically mean the same existence of a successor function? [And while for most of the familiar formulae such as Axy (x+y = y+x), that they might semantically mean 2 different successor functions - by the single name "S" - won't matter at all, how can we be so sure it won't matter to _all_ formulae of L(PA)? For instance, how can we be so sure it won't matter to GC(PA)?]


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