Re: Torkel Franzén is dead

MoeBlee wrote:
George Dance wrote:
MoeBlee wrote:
George Dance wrote:
Aatu Koskensilta wrote:
the idea that people in general should know formal logic
is just as bizarre as the idea that people in general should teach
themselves the principles of fluid mechanics.


Then I can only conclude that you believe that (1) some people never
need to use principles of good reasoning, or (2) everyone needs to use
principles of fluid mechanics.

What?! He didn't say there are people who don't need to use good
reasoning. He said that there are people who don't need to learn FORMAL
logic.

Which leaves him one way to escape the dilemma,

What dilemma?

Of asserting either (1) or (2) above).

the one he took: to
deny that the principles of formal logic have any connection with
principles of good reasoning.

Please provide a quote in which Franzen said that there is NO
connection between formal logic and principles of good reasoning.

Yet another apparent straw man - even more apparent, since it's clear
that 'he' refers to Aatu Koskensilta. What Aatu eventually said, in
response to the dilemma, was: "Teaching someone to "use" some formal
calculi or other in no way constitutes teaching correct reasoning." Do
you think I'm misinterpreting the meaning of 'in no way'?

You're starting to rack up a list of claims as to what Franzen said,
but in too many instances those claims are without an actual quote of
Franzen provided by you.

Three of those claims - that Frankel raised the issue of PhDs, that he
discriminated on the basis of PhDs, and now that he made the above
statement - look like claims that you added to the list yourself.

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