Re: NW vs. infinity
- From: Stephen Harris <cyberguard-1048@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:08:28 GMT
John Jones wrote:
george wrote:
The inertia of mathematics and all scholastic texts against change and
philosophy is due to the requirements placed upon a body of knowledge
to sustain itself, be productive, and minimise down-time. These social
requirements form the first line of defence of mathematics and all
texts in philosophic and scholastic attack against their texts. The
original author high-lighted that, but people here seem to have got
sidetracked in the particulars of the texts. This sidetracking
constitutes a social, and not scholastic or mathematical defence.
How can that be so or the actual problem?
Mathematics used to have no concept of infinity.
Mathematics used to have potential infinities which
was an entrenched view, but not completed infinities,
and now opinion has changed again.
Mathematics is a collection of shared agreed upon opinions.
Apparently you have come across all those quotes which
exclaim about the "unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics".
You write like mathematics is some sort of physical fact
that can't include infinity because there is no physical
example of infinity.
Mathematics is often called a language, which is an
abstract, symbolic notion just like the concept of number.
You remind me of an average Word user who remarked that
LyX developers would like very much for LyX to replace
Word. That sounds like a reasonable claim from the outside
based on general expectations. But the fact is that they
don't even compete so that poster did little more than
trumpet his ignorance of the facts. You have a superficial
knowledge which is why you chose "publish or perish" and
tried to use it to compensate for your ignorance by
misapplying it to this discussion. The reason people don't
pay attention to crackpots is because they are a dime a
dozen. People don't have time to read everybody's brilliant
new insight. Using credentials to filter new theories is
a necessary selection process due to limited time for
reading. People don't want to suffer through arrogant
but ignorant opinions constructed from a hodgepodge of
superficial ingredients that taste like vomit, not soup.
You are not stupid, but your education is quite limited
at this point so that your ejaculations contain so many
false assumptions that you don't even qualify as wrong.
Grow up a bit and gain some humility and wait till you
have something worthwhile to say rather than blabbering.
People are really sick of hearing dropouts whine about
not having the established academia pay attention to
them and they accuse academia of narrow-mindedness.
That is such a small part of the reason whining dropouts
are ignored. There are very few lurking genius types of
the Wolfram stature. It isn't worth anyone's time to
evaluate claims from the fringe from the wannabe genius
because time is valuable and the fringe input is so often
not. You don't seem educated enough to have graduated
even to crackpot status like Plutonium; just a kid with
a big ego in dire need of a college course in critical
thinking,
Stephen
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