Re: The Difference between a Set and an Element
- From: Chris Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:44:21 +0000 (UTC)
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:28:28 +0100, G Frege <nomail@invalid> said:
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I don't think so. We are talking about 2OL here. 2OL is not set
theory.
That's a matter of some dispute, but in any case you need to specify a
semantics for a second-order language before the discussion can even go
anywhere. I was just talking relative to a standard, extensional
second-order semantics.
But suppose we assume a countable language and that every??? Comprehension just guaranties that for every such formula A[x]
formula with at least one free variable signifies a concept.
there _is_ an concept F such that for all x: Fx <-> A[x].
If that's your semantics. You have to tell me what a concept is on that
semantics, of course.
On those assumptions, there are at most countably many conceptsI don't think so. Comprehension just guaranties that there are _at
least_ countable many concepts.
Yes, of course. The point there was simply that the most that the
assumptions in question could guarantee was a much smaller universe of
concepts than the one envisioned in which every set is the extension of
a concept.
.
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