Re: Countable models of ZFC

R. Srinivasan wrote:
But personally I would prefer to take George as my graduate student,
if I were a Prof. (fortunately I am not). In my view, guys like George
are more likely to radically challenge the status quo. George is not
afraid to call a spade a spade, and though he will get a lot of stuff
wrong, he *could* eventually hit the jackpot with his approach.

By shouting at people at random? Challenging stagnant orthodoxy is
swell and good, but it is not very effectively done by accusing people
of lying, erratic capitalisation, obsessing over trivialities and so
on. If George were to formulate some coherent conception of
mathematics -- perhaps he has and is carefully hiding it from the evil
liars infecting the news -- and explained it in understandable terms,
something interesting might possibly come out of it (we might recall
Yesenin-Volpin's ideas, which have recently been studied, from a
classical point of view, in context of non-standard models). His
present behaviour only serves to make him look silly.

Whereas Rupert, like a lot of other smart guys in this newsgroup, is
(in my view) too deeply into the status quo to radically challenge it.

An absurd idea. Anyone with an interest in logic would be delighted to
come up with something truly novel, to find some hitherto unknown
problem in currently accepted notions, to devise a new way of
conceiving mathematics etc.

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- Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus

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