Re: Gödel's sentence is not self-referential

On Nov 24, 6:31 pm, "elsiemelsi" <cyprin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
believe that no proposition can be about itself, but this is not
essential now, since nothing of the kind is present in Gödel's proof.

4. To conclude: the simple distinction between sentences and
propositions shows that Gödel's proof relies on no self-referential
proposition.

you are completley wrong
read godels lips

We saw that we can construct propositions which make statements about
themselves,

even george in a post admits he makes self referencing statements -though
george says this is only indirectly- indirect or not they are as godel
tells us propositions which make statements about themselves,

thus when you say

believe that no proposition can be about itself, but this is not

you agree with colin leslie dean that godels is invalid because he uses
these self referencing statements

Maybe Gödel believed we can construct sentences expressing self-
referential propositions; I'm not sure about Gödel's belief. But
nothing of the like shows up in his proof. Even if he could have
thought it did.

Regards
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