Re: The empty set
- From: apoorv <sudhir_sh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:55:29 -0800 (PST)
On Dec 14, 3:49 am, G. Frege <nomail@invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:08:19 -0800 (PST), apoorv <sudhir...@xxxxxxxxxxx>If there is no universal set (containing all objects of the theory),
wrote:
The empty set is
0 = {x : x e A and ~x e A}.
So, For all x, x e 0 <--> x e A and ~x e A,
or, x e 0 <--> ~[x e A or ~x e A]
or. x e 0 <--> ~[x e A u Ac] , where Ac is the complement of A ,
No - at least not in the context of our "standard" set theory ZF(C),
since there's no "absolute" complement, only a /relative complement/.
So -for the sake of the argument- let's consider a set theory, where
~(x e A) <-> x e A'
(assuming that there is such a theory).
or, x e 0 <--> ~[x e U], where U is the domain for the variable x.
No. Rather, where U is the /universal set/ - a set containing all
objects of our theory.
So, the empty set is the complement of the domain U of the variable x.
The empty set is the (absolute) complement of the universal set: the
contrary of /everything/ is /nothing/.
Suppose the domain U is contained in a larger domain U'.
IF U is the universal set, THEN there is no larger set.
Note that in ZF(C) there is no universal set.
then
how can we have 0 as the absolute complement of the non existing
'universal set'?
If we take our universe as the class of all sets, then would 0 be the
class of all
'non sets'?There is at least one non set, namely, the class of all
sets.
-apoorv
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