Re: Godel proved maths inconsistent not incompleteness theorem



Charlie-Boo <shymathguy@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

On Mar 13, 5:08 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Charlie-Boo <shymath...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
On Mar 13, 3:43 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Charlie-Boo <shymath...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
On Mar 13, 2:53 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Charlie-Boo <shymath...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
I give a cardinality of aleph-0 to finite sets, but whatever numbers
you want is fine with me - like whether Peano starts with 0 or 1.

So all finite sets have the same cardinality, namely aleph-0?

On the infinity scale viz. finite.

It all has to do with loops in computer programs, you know - how many
loops it takes to process the finite subset of the world that man will
ever see.

I asked a yes/no question.  

I gave an implicit yes.

If you say so.  Okay, so every finite set has the same cardinality.
Well, that *is* revolutionary.

No, I said with respect to the infinity scale. There is no point to
any of this, you do realize that don't you?

I don't know what that means, but I do know that you said that you
said "yes" to my question. My question was:

[Do] all finite sets have the same cardinality, namely aleph-0?

A "yes" to this seems to justify the following conclusion:

Every finite set has the same cardinality.

And now you say that this conclusion is wrong. Did you want to
retract the earlier "yes"?

I've never seen any hint that CBL has a definition of cardinality.

I thought you just quoted it.

I quoted no definition at all. I asked a simple question, the
affirmation of which would not serve as a definition of cardinality.
At best, it may serve as a definition of aleph-0.

You *do* know what a definition is, right? Here, I'll get you
started:

Let X and Y be sets. We say that X and Y have the same
/cardinality/ just in case ...

(Hint: don't answer "yes" to this one. It's fill-in-the-blank.)

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