Re: all the incompleteness proofs are worthless untill...



On Mar 18, 1:25 am, "elsiemelsi" <cyprin...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
you say

it is very easy (once one knows Tarski's work in semantics) to prove in
Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory that Peano Arithmetic is consistent.

but then ZF is inconsistent due to the skolem paradox

The Skolem paradox does not show that ZF is inconsistent. No competent
mathematician ever entertained this idea for a moment. I'm happy to
keep trying to explain to you why it does not show that ZF is
inconsistent, if you wish.
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