Re: Liar's Paradox

On Apr 3, 11:16 am, stevendaryl3...@xxxxxxxxx (Daryl McCullough)
wrote:
Marshall says...
On Apr 3, 9:43 am, stevendaryl3...@xxxxxxxxx (Daryl McCullough) wrote:
Marshall says...

I may just be overly pragmatic in my thinking, but I really
don't see the value to the logician of riddles.
Natural language has ambiguous, nondeterministic,
context-sensitive semantics by design and intent.

The Liar Paradox doesn't have anything specifically to do with
natural language.

Do you see your reply as having some relevance to what
I wrote?

Yes. You said: "Natural language has ambiguous, nondeterministic,
context-sensitive semantics by design and intent". I responded
by saying that that has nothing to do with the Liar Paradox
(the subject of this thread). Maybe you didn't intend for your
statement to have any relevance to this thread?

Have you found success in the past with the technique of
repeating the same phrase over and over again in response
to requests for clarification? Is your expectation that I'm
going to understand the relevance on the third or fifth
or seventh try?

Your proposed sentence:

This sentence cannot be assigned a truth value, since it
involves infinite regress.

is written in natural language, is it not? The properties of
natural language have to have at least *some* relevance,
since you're asking about a sentence in natural language,
and this is true even if the specific properties in question
are not properties that are exclusive to natural language.

Yes, I understand that there are manifestations of things
very much like the Liar's Paradox in other contexts, some
of which are formal languages. Russell's paradox, for example.
This does not negate my claim that natural language can be
ambiguous. If you have some further point to make about
it, it's clear that I'm not going to get what it is simply by
repeated reading of the same phrase you used initially;
you'll have to be more specific if you intend to communicate
whatever it is you have in mind. If that is not your goal, that
is also fine.


Marshall
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