Re: Choice sequences, intuition, etc
- From: stevendaryl3016@xxxxxxxxx (Daryl McCullough)
- Date: 21 Oct 2008 07:09:00 -0700
Bill Taylor says...
OK, I think I've got it. A free choice sequence is "merely"
a sequence for which the first k terms are known, for any k,
but for which any question essentially involving infinitely
many members, has no knowable answer.
I think that's right.
Bishop describes... ...one such doubt is about
the rule of ex falso quodlibet, false->X for any X.
I heartily agree! Constructivists should avoid this like
the plague, IMHO, as I cannot see what earthy algorithmic
meaning could be given to it, in any particular case.
Can anyone else? I would love to hear, if so.
If you *define* FALSE to be the second-order statement
"forall propositions X, X" (in other words, all statements
are true), then FALSE -> X is constructively provable.
EXACTLY SO! And as we seem to be agreed that Bishop considered
that mathematical meaning amounted to computational meaning,
this seems to suggest that he found NO MEANING to Choice Sequences.
I think that that's not a completely accurate description of
Bishop's philosophy. Constructive tasks almost always take
the form of "Given this, construct that". Bishop insisted that
what is *constructed* must be computationally meaningful, but
he carefully refrained from making the assumption that what is
*given* must be constructable. So when Bishop proves that
"forall reals r, such and such and such follows" he is *not*
assuming that the real r is constructable. He is assuming that
it has computational content, but not that it be constructable.
To have computational content, a real r must have an associated
method for providing a rational number that is within 1/n of r,
for every natural number n, but Bishop nowhere assumes that
this method must be a computable function. In this way, Bishop's
theorems are always classically valid (which would not be the
case if he assumed something along the lines of "all reals are
computable").
So Bishop's methods allow one to define *constructive* functions
on potentially nonconstructive objects.
--
Daryl McCullough
Ithaca, NY
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