Re: BeanStalk Conduction limits

From: Earl Colby Pottinger (earlcp_at_idirect.com)
Date: 06/19/04 

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 12:30:45 -0500

"N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> :

> Dear Earl Colby Pottinger:
>
> "Earl Colby Pottinger" <earlcp@idirect.com> wrote in message
> news:M7CdnXrpmZvejU7d4p2dnA@look.ca...
> > "Gordon Couger" <gcouger@NOSPAMprovalue.net> :
> >
> > > At some point in a thunder storm it will start to conduct or the dust
> and
> > > dirt on it will and the resulting lighting bolt will detach the anchor.
> > >
> > > Gordon
> >
> > I noticed you did not answer a single question I ask or address a single
> > point I raise. If the fibers are embedded in resin why must it start
> > conducting.
>
> He said "dust and dirt". You were answered.

On a vertical ribbon?

> > Why would dust collect on a vertical ribbon.
>
> It works for vans, buidling walls and windows, and flagpoles. Do you think
> nature makes exceptions based on your intended use?

Right, now you find me one that has collect enought dust to conduct power.
  
> > When have you
> > hear/seen that dust collected on the outside of any manmade structure
> > conducting lighting?
>
> Lightning rods, yes.

I ask for a structure - you a non-conducting one like the BeanStalk is.
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> > How can dust made of mostly Silicon Dioxide conduct
> > power?
>
> Since when is dust "mostly silicon dioxide"? Ever heard of doping? Ever
> heard of hygroscopic materials? Lightning follows any path that gets it to
> ground with minimum breakdown voltage. Surface conduction is quite easy to
> induce.

OH, I see! Someone is going to dope the dust on purpose. Again I ask show
me a real world example of dust collecting on a manmade structure conducting
power.
 
> > You seem to be trying your level best to claim BeanStalks are damaged by
> > lighting, but all your claims are based on designs only a child would
> built.
> > Try entering the real world where man-made structures get hit by lighting
> > twenty times in a single day and keep on working.
>
> You on the other hand are burying your head in the sand. The tether will
> be prone to lightning strikes. You can minimize the strikes... how?
> Cleaning, keeping it dry, keeping it as non-conductive as possible,
> seeding the ground around it with a reverse static charge, more?

And who bothers to do any of those things to present non-conducting
structures today? The fact is any well design non-conducting structure needs
no maintainence to survive lighting strikes. The current flows are just too
small to do any damage. Worse for your claim on things to do to prevent
stikes, Gordon says nothing you do will be good enough - lighting is going to
turn your structure to plasma and blow it away period. Re-read his post if
you don't believe me.

                 Earl Colby Pottinger 

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