Re: nanotube composite

From: Havirrion (havirrion_at_NOblueDAMNyonderSPAM.co.uk)
Date: 06/27/04 

Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:30:56 GMT

David Deuchar wrote:
> "Havirrion" <havirrion@NOblueDAMNyonderSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:jonDc.3760$PZ4.40338565@news-text.cableinet.net...
>
>>Uncle Al wrote:
>>
>>>Havirrion wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.nature.com/nsu/021007/021007-13.html
>>>>
>>>>This stuff was reported on some time ago yet evert attempt I have made
>>>>to find out more has been a dead end. The physical properties the
>>>>article mentions are just incredible, and I wonder about the credulity
>>>>of it all.
>>>
>>>
>>>The hot spin is continuous synthesis of nanotubes (flowing inert gas,
>>>organic feedstock, a little methanol, a trace of vaporized ferrocene
>>>as catalyst, then pyrolyze and grab growing fiber like cotton candy)
>>>then prepreg with aqueous poly(vinyl alcohol), spin to multi-filament
>>>fiber, and pyrolyze that.
>>>
>>>It works in the lab and the claimed material properties are awesome.
>>>The real world is commercialization. It didn't take Kevlar and
>>>Spectra very long to have major impacts upon steel cable and high-end
>>>sails. Nano-stuffs remain commercial orphans.
>>>
>>>If you can't sell it to a consortium of stupendously wealthy fanatics
>>>lusting after the Americas Cup/Louis Vuitton Cup, you ain't got
>>>nothing.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Sure there are niche markets and that is how a lot if this kind of stuff
>>crawls towards wider commercial usage. That said the hardness and
>>strength of this material should have lots of industrial and commercial
>>sector companies salivating like hungry dogs.
>>
>>It is unfortunate that a lot of the nano related materials research is
>>not seeing much commercialization. There are a raft of novel materials
>>out there that fulfil genunine needs in the marketplace but for whatever
>>reason comerecial usage is scant to non existent
>
>
>
> If commercial usage is nonexistent it is because the materials, when used in
> practical applications, do not actually have the claimed properties. Sports
> materials is a large market keen to use novel materials. If they could make
> this stuff in significant quantities and provide a certificate guaranteeing
> its properties they would have a market.
>
>

That may seem logical but things just don't work like that in the real
world.

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