Re: how much lead when drinking from crystal

From: hanson (hanson_at_quick.net)
Date: 10/26/04

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    "Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.sinclair@NOSPAMagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz>
    wrote in message news:18zfd.23252$mZ2.855623@news02.tsnz.net...
    > In article <arlfd.87224$tU4.7228@okepread06>, "Gordon Couger"
    <gcouger@NOSPAMprovalue.net> wrote:
    > >"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
    > >news:6Zhfd.2492$kM.705@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > >> "Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.sinclair@NOSPAMagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz>
    > >> wrote in message news:FNefd.23024$mZ2.843216@news02.tsnz.net...
    > >> > In article <6b70c71c.0410211324.61264fd6@posting.google.com>,
    > >> mark_tarka@yahoo.com (Mark Tarka) wrote:
    > >> > >"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
    > >> > > news:<8xCdd.2586$KJ6.535@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
    > >> > >> "Bruce Sinclair" <bruce.sinclair@NOSPAMagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz>
    > >> > >> wrote in message news:boBdd.13204$mZ2.777262@news02.tsnz.net...
    > >> > >> > In article <916f22ee.0410201408.438fe376@posting.google.com>,
    > >> > >> ceraboy@yahoo.com (Ceraboy) wrote:
    > >> > >> > (snip)
    > >> > >> > >Ordinary glassware does not contain lead, but lead is
    > >> > >> > >used to make the more expensive lead crystal.
    > >> > >> > >People who have lead crystal items should
    > >> >> > >> take the following precautions:
    > >> > >> > (snip)
    > >> > >> >
    > >> > >> [Bruce]
    > >> > >> > 1) Get over it. As others have said, the amount of lead here
    > >> > >> > is tiny compared to other sources. :)
    > >> > >> > 2) Stop worrying about tiny risks. Have more fun. Laugh a bit :)
    > >> > >> > PS: Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday,
    > >> > >> > lying in hospitals dying of nothing.
    > >> > >> >
    > >> > >> [hanson]
    > >> > >> Yo, Bruce, I like your tune! If only more people would think
    > >> > >> like you, instead of being scared of their own shadows, a result
    > >> > >> of indoctrination by the green shits for more that a generation
    > >> > >> now. I hope that folks begin to realize that environmentalism
    > >> > >> is based on the green bible which proselytizes that
    > >> > >> = "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
    > >> > >> = believe is true ... -- Paul Watson, Greenpeace, and ......
    > >> > >> = "A lot of environmental [health] messages are simply not
    > >> > >> = accurate. We use hype." -- Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, UoW, and...
    > >> > >> = "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
    > >> > >> = mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
    > >> > >> = -- Stephen Schneider (Stanford prof. who first sought fame as
    > >> > >> = a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
    > >> > >[snip ...]
    > >> >
    > >> [Bruce]
    > >> > This sort of thinking is NOT "green" as you suggest ... it is
    > >> > advertising
    > >> > (mostly). What they sell these days is fear. Fear of being fat. Fear of
    > >> > dying. Fear of not getting "enough" sex. Fear of your clothes or hands
    > >> > or .. not being "bacteria free" (oh please ! :) ).
    > >> > This sort of thinking is closer to "not" thinking :)
    > >> > "Greens" IME are mostly logical ... you may disagree with their data
    > >> > ... but check carefully before you discard it :)
    > >> > Bruce
    > >> >
    > >> [hanson]
    > >> Good, that then makes the Greens even worse. It simply states
    > >> that the fear they were/are selling has come back to roost and
    > >> has put fear into them, the Greenies, whose big fear now is about
    > >> losing the Green money, because the general public now knows
    > >> that
    > >> = The green movement was always & only a sick machination=
    > >> = & a cover to get $$$ grants, permit charges & user fees to =
    > >> = feed green shits, be they politicians, consultants, activists or=
    > >> = regulators. Environmentalism is just a despicable evil green=
    > >> = $$$$$$ game without any redeeming value, nor any intent =
    > >> = to save anything. This 40 year old scam is now threatened =
    > >> = which is why all those leeching green turds are whining =
    >
    [Bruce]
    > What a load of bollocks. Probably why you are in my killfile :)
    >
    [hanson]
    > >> Think about it. If that weren't the case, then how come things
    > >> are still **environmentally unacceptable** in their views, after
    > >> forty (40) years, and $Billions and $Billions spent, and they still
    > >> whine & want even more?..........ahahahaha.....$$$$$$$$$...
    >
    [Bruce]
    > Some kind of indian proverb (IIRC ... a frog doesn't drink all the pond it
    > lives in (or similar :)).
    > If you think that people can do whatever we want for as long as we want in
    > a finite system, you are deluded ... or don't know sufficient thermodynamics
    > perhaps :)
    >
    [hanson]
    > >> But in general we have only minor semantic differences, like your
    > >> "What they sell these days is fear"....which in my lingo translates
    > >> into; "the $$$$ price for getting empty green promises to have no
    > >> fear (= green lies) must be paid for with green DOLLARS in form
    > >> of permit charges, user-fees and enviro/carbon taxes"...ahahahaha...
    > >> ....and yes, THEY sure check carefully before THEY discard it :)
    > >> ahahaha.......ahahanson
    > >>
    [Cougar]
    > >You give the green movers and shakers a lot higher motives than I do.
    > >I think they are anarchists using the green movement to their ends. My
    > >reasoning is their support the most destructive agricultural methods that
    > >man has developed.
    >
    [Bruce]
    > Anarchy is the best form of government ... assuming everyone is logical and
    > reasonable. That's why it will never work in practice :)
    > Have you considered that we may simply be discovering new data that needs to
    > be taken into account ? This has been a common trend, particularly over the
    > last 50 or so years ... and ecology is much more complex than an individual
    > organism. :) Maybe we are just starting to think wholistically ?
    > Bruce
    >
    [hanson]
    ahahahaha......Bruce, you are contradicting yourself on several
    issues above..........ahahahaha........AHAHAHAHA...... even
    to the point where you put me into your kill-file and then
    proceed to answer my posts........AHAHAHAHA......

    Bruce, are you a closet green turd and afraid of coming out
    for being embarrassed by the green philosophy which no matter
    what new data is discovered, it still labors under the edits of the
    green bible that says:
    = "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
    = believe is true ... -- Paul Watson, Greenpeace, and ......
    = "A lot of environmental [health] messages are simply not
    = accurate. We use hype." -- Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, UoW, and...
    = "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
    = mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
    = -- Stephen Schneider (Stanford prof. who first sought fame as
    = a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
    >
    Hey, Bruce, don't get bent out a shape now. I didn't make this up.
    These green icons here must be your buddies especially since
    all of them have leanings towards anarchism........ahahahaha...
    ahahaha......ahahanson

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