Re: Help Not Really Wanted - the "Green Card Game"

From: jim beam (nospam_at_example.net)
Date: 03/23/05 

Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:15:17 -0800

jbuch wrote:
> metalengr@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> One of the most irritating aspects of a job search is encountering ads
>> for positions that already are actually filled. These ads often contain
>> phrases like "experience in the position offered" or "experience
>> performing the duties of the position offered" prefaced by the word
>> years or the phrase "years of".
>>
>> For example, right now on the Career Center at www.asminternational.org
>> there is a listing of this type by TRW Automotive Engine Components for
>> a Senior Materials Engineer for Sevierville, TN.
>>
>> These phrases mean that the employer already has a foreign resident
>> filling the position. He just is advertising to demonstrate that he
>> cannot find a suitable American. Often the ad will have ludicrously
>> detailed requirements (which of course were generated from the specific
>> background of the incumbent). Usually the ad will have an alternative
>> to already being filling the position. However, sometimes HR slips up
>> and literally advertises only for the incumbent. ( For example, see
>> http://www.metatomix.com/company/careers/tech/object_store.jsp )
>>
>> If you reply to such an ad, then you are playing the losing game of
>> competing with an incumbent. You would have a better chance of winning
>> a game of three-card Monte!
>>
>> Listing these ads under "help wanted" truly is fraudulent, since
>> the only help desired is actually getting a stack of "unsuitable"
>> resumes to comply with labor law. Shouldn't these ads be listed under
>> a different category than real openings?
>>
>>
>> Pittsburgh Pete
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>
>
> I wrote some angry letters about this in 2001 and 2002 to my
> Congress-critter, then California Christopher Cox..... and others.
>
> As you clearly point out, the practice still goes on.
>
> Nothing like the joy of finding low priced labor so warms the hearts of
> businessmen.
>
uncle al's right on this one. why settle for a barely adequate native
when a foreigner is better qualified? that way, two things are achieved:

1. a competitive company
2. a competitor robbed of talent.

that's a win-win.

our universities seem so intent on simply graduating virtually every
entrant, excellence has taken a back seat. look at some stats; a
domestic university graduating *98%* of its intake??? why would anyone
bother to /work/ for their degree when they /know/ they're going to
pass? drop grad rates to 50%. per year. then watch excellence find
its way back into the curriculum.

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