Re: Help Not Really Wanted - the "Green Card Game"

From: jbuch (jbuch_at_CUTHERErevealed.net)
Date: 03/23/05 

Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:24:48 -0600

jim beam wrote:
> jbuch wrote:
>
>> metalengr@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> One of the most irritating aspects of a job search is encountering ads
>>> for positions that already are actually filled. These ads often contain
>>> phrases like "experience in the position offered" or "experience
>>> performing the duties of the position offered" prefaced by the word
>>> years or the phrase "years of".
>>>
>>> For example, right now on the Career Center at www.asminternational.org
>>> there is a listing of this type by TRW Automotive Engine Components for
>>> a Senior Materials Engineer for Sevierville, TN.
>>>
>>> These phrases mean that the employer already has a foreign resident
>>> filling the position. He just is advertising to demonstrate that he
>>> cannot find a suitable American. Often the ad will have ludicrously
>>> detailed requirements (which of course were generated from the specific
>>> background of the incumbent). Usually the ad will have an alternative
>>> to already being filling the position. However, sometimes HR slips up
>>> and literally advertises only for the incumbent. ( For example, see
>>> http://www.metatomix.com/company/careers/tech/object_store.jsp )
>>>
>>> If you reply to such an ad, then you are playing the losing game of
>>> competing with an incumbent. You would have a better chance of winning
>>> a game of three-card Monte!
>>>
>>> Listing these ads under "help wanted" truly is fraudulent, since
>>> the only help desired is actually getting a stack of "unsuitable"
>>> resumes to comply with labor law. Shouldn't these ads be listed under
>>> a different category than real openings?
>>>
>>>
>>> Pittsburgh Pete
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>>
>>
>> I wrote some angry letters about this in 2001 and 2002 to my
>> Congress-critter, then California Christopher Cox..... and others.
>>
>> As you clearly point out, the practice still goes on.
>>
>> Nothing like the joy of finding low priced labor so warms the hearts
>> of businessmen.
>>
> uncle al's right on this one. why settle for a barely adequate native
> when a foreigner is better qualified? that way, two things are achieved:
>
> 1. a competitive company
> 2. a competitor robbed of talent.
>
> that's a win-win.
>
> our universities seem so intent on simply graduating virtually every
> entrant, excellence has taken a back seat. look at some stats; a
> domestic university graduating *98%* of its intake??? why would anyone
> bother to /work/ for their degree when they /know/ they're going to
> pass? drop grad rates to 50%. per year. then watch excellence find
> its way back into the curriculum.
>

So, you are saying what I had recently begun to fear.

Our Universities have sold out to the business of selling degrees, and
not of training students with real talent.

That sounds like our whole educational system has sold itself out to
cheapened standards.

I remember bein on an airplane flight years ago. The passenger next to
me was taking about his daughter and her STRAIGHT A high school
achievements. Then he went on to tell about all of her friends being
STRAIGHT A students as well.

I told him that in the Ancient Age, when I went to high school, every
couple of years there would be one (1) STRAIGHT A student. That it used
to be quite rare, and not common.

He shut up as soon as I told him that.

In the Ancient Age, when I attended University, the Engineering School
had a dropout/flunk-out rate of just over 50%.

So, I suppose that I am seeing the other side of the coin, and that the
higher education institutes have also cheapened the value of an education.

Of course, the question is...... will others voice the same opinion?
Uncle Al is a famous cynic, so one automatically tends to listen less
attentitively to him.

Anybody else?

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